I think thats where "Footballs diving home" headline came from but I forget which paper.
I don't think it's fair to blame the fans though, the team can't control their actions.
Poll: UEFA Euro 2020 Final Italy v England ** spoilers ** [Sunday 11th July 2021]
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I think thats where "Footballs diving home" headline came from but I forget which paper.
I don't think it's fair to blame the fans though, the team can't control their actions.
Soldato
not only that but Kane also engages in some outright dangerous cheating.
https://www.sportbible.com/football...anes-controversial-backing-in-tactic-20210129
As a Spurs fan (for my sins) I think what he does is actually disgraceful as it could end up injuring someone quite badly. Refs should be more alert to this sort of cheating and VAR should 100% be keeping an eye on him in deadball situations in the box. If he gets caught doing this he should get a red card for dangerous play.
Yeah this is the point I'm making, after every tournament loss people look for a 'scapegoat', usually it's confined to people involved in the sport but not this time.
@BaZ87 I'm wondering if it's worth spinning off a separate thread for the 'racism' discussion to split it out from the football postmortem?
Soldato
It's called a foul, England never pulled a shirt or it just wasn't as visible?
Stones was sprawled out on top forcibly stopping Chielinni from getting up waiting for a 3 tap WWF style from Cheilinni at the goal, wouldn't get off him, would've been a penalty if it wasn't a goal.
What game have you watched that one team 'cheats' and the other team doesn't?
Sour sour grapes when crying about a proffesional foul is all you got.
Soldato
see, this is completely nonsense, why is that still being brought up by salty Europeans?
The ball didn't interfere with play. So it doesn't matter. Sterling was contacted not once but twice. In the knee and the hip, by two different players and in such a way that he was going nowhere other than down. Why are you even trying to pretend that should be anything other than a penalty in the box?
Soldato
The difference being as a supporter of the champs, I can now have an element of aroggance.
Everything coming out of England is aroggance when winning nothing, so not having that, there is no articles anywhere of Italy being arrogant, they never thought they were winning it, only a chance of doind decent.
That is a stark difference.
Soldato
Coz it wouldn't be up for discussion if Denmark got that kind of penalty and nocked England out?
but what Penalty ?
Sterling is a repeat offender always dives
you have a short memory
https://www.news24.com/sport/Soccer...es-apology-after-fake-penalty-in-ucl-20181108
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Where have I been arrogant? Please post any comment? I mainly watch rugby, have an interest in football as I used to love the game, but the game I fell in love with isn't recognisable by today's standards. You sum up all that is wrong with football and it's fans though:
. Be magnanimous in victory and dignified in defeat. I said right from the start that Italy fully deserved to win the final, far better team on the night. Yet you seem totally ignorant to the fact that Italy could have been beaten.
I won't say anymore on the subject now as you are not obviously interested in a sensible discussion, all the best.
Soldato
Stop this is getting more funny every time I hear it. It's a foul, nothing more, nothing less...he got booked, its called taking one for the team.
I must ask though, do you even play football? Have you ever played football?
Caporegime
The mental gymnastics on show in this thread from both sides is next level. I thought it was bad enough from some of the regulars in the weekly prem threads but they've made those look tame.
Absolutely not. Italy probably should have had a penalty, but that wasn’t it. He doesn’t hold him down at all?!
I get ‘professional’ fouls are yellow cards, but the foul on Saka was violent. It’s not being a sore loser, I doubt we would have come up with a goal in time against 10men and the better team won on the night.
Maybe a rugby type system is required, I’m not sure.
Soldato
Any team can be beaten, but listening to almost a nation(not you), year in year out at any fottballing event, that 'we are going to win it', gets a bit grating.
He's lying on top of him stopping him getting up, a violent shirt pull though, I'm laughing
Soldato
I feel you clearly don't if you think its a red. I would be in serious trouble in your league if so.
Its a shirt pull to stop him running off, he did his job. Do you think he went "im going to strangle this guy"
It was that much of a red, it hasn't even made the highlight reels. Either has the hand ball in the build up by Saka, but that isn't discussed
Its a shirt pull - maybe Rice should be sent off as well for trying to trip Chiesa? He just chose not to pull him back and let him get a shot off. Given the game time, probably a wise decision.
Soldato
Only idiots would still be making arguments about that. Which is kinda what I was implying...
I feel you clearly don't if you think its a red. I would be in serious trouble in your league if so.
Its a shirt pull to stop him running off, he did his job. Do you think he went "im going to strangle this guy"
It was that much of a red, it hasn't even made the highlight reels. Either has the hand ball in the build up by Saka, but that isn't discussed
He's shirt pulling around his neck mate with enough force to pull him straight back....that isnt the same as on your arm is it. Its dangerous play, simple as that.
Soldato
I've even "fallen" on players before, pulled their shorts down, you name it - if its a shirt I can grab, so be it. Lets not start on the kicking out at people, or running into their legs...it is what it is. On the halfway line, with players sort of behind/inline, its not a red - even if it did go to VAR.
That said, I have found some of the "I'm happy we didn't win like this" very amusing
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The shirt pull was never a red card, simple tactical foul. If I was an England player in the same situation I would have done the same thing.
I do think the Jorginho stamp on Grealish was a red card though by todays standards. Over the top of the ball, studs on knee/thigh. That is dangerous, out of control, play.
I do think the Jorginho stamp on Grealish was a red card though by todays standards. Over the top of the ball, studs on knee/thigh. That is dangerous, out of control, play.
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