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Yeah, Palmer looked lively. As did Gordon for his two minutes.
I actually think we'd be better against a team that stretches the play.
I may be kidding myself but it wouldn't be the first time
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UEFA Euro 2024 Group C ** spoilers ** (Slovenia, Denmark, Serbia, ENGLAND)
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I actually think we'd be better against a team that stretches the play.
I may be kidding myself but it wouldn't be the first time
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Precisely. When it comes down to it, all that will really count is the final score.
I went to support England in the World Cup in Brazil in 2014 where we finished bottom of the group. At that final game against Costa Rica I didn't see anybody (or feel an impetus myself to) start throwing stuff at the players at the final whistle when they came to thank the fans.
I think people need to get some perspective.
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Yeah, people shouldn't be throwing stuff no matter how disappointed they are.
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It seems France, Belgium and the Dutch are getting slated too by their fans/ex players
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Even the French don't like the French!
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I can see another Greece type winner this year
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Yeah Slovakia will be parking the bus probably. This is the problem with crap teams in the knockouts unfortunately, they can just try and play for penalties.
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At least it's a recognised "tactic", unlike those England are showing
Just shoot to dubs’ right, he’ll start letting them in
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He saw John Terry pressing his ring doorbell
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Yeah, they couldn't have hoped for an easier passage to a final mind although they will likely have to beat Holland and Italy to get there.
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I know very little about football but it really appears the English side along with sone others are utterly disinterested in the game. Like there is just no interest between winning or drawing, good or bad.
(Source was forced to watch a couple matches)
(Source was forced to watch a couple matches)
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If you’ve watched him this season you’d realise he’s been pretty poor for the past 3 months due to being comically overplayed early in the season by Ancelotti.
He’s clearly running on empty, I’m sure Southgate’s tactics aren’t helping but Jude flopping at the Euros was always very likely given his performance levels in recent months.
Dude needs a rest
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My two cents.. which is about all it's worth
Against these so called lesser teams, that play the low block .. it's very important to have wide players that can take on the full back.
What this does is draw the centre back and one of the midfiielders towards the "winger" so as to cover the full back if they get beaten.
So that even if they then do come inside, the centre back and midfielder have already made a move towards that side, so either a quick switch of play, or even playing through the middle after the wide player comes inside is more effective.
At the moment with England and two wide players that always come inside, it means there's no space in the middle of the park for players like Bellingham and Foden to do anything with the ball. So for the first 70 mins against Slovenia, the defensive players could stay disiplined and there was literally no way for England to get through.
On comes Palmer, and straight away takes on his full back. This completely changes the defensive positions of the opposition, it was not about them getting tired. (although they possibly were, if there were allowed to stay in their positions they can still easily hold the defensive block!).
BTW i'm not saying it has to be Palmer and or Gordon that does this, if Saka and Foden play, then must be instructed to go take on / go outside their full back at least half the time they get the ball
If we don't play wide players against Slovakia, then I expect we'll have exactly the same problems.
Simples..
Against these so called lesser teams, that play the low block .. it's very important to have wide players that can take on the full back.
What this does is draw the centre back and one of the midfiielders towards the "winger" so as to cover the full back if they get beaten.
So that even if they then do come inside, the centre back and midfielder have already made a move towards that side, so either a quick switch of play, or even playing through the middle after the wide player comes inside is more effective.
At the moment with England and two wide players that always come inside, it means there's no space in the middle of the park for players like Bellingham and Foden to do anything with the ball. So for the first 70 mins against Slovenia, the defensive players could stay disiplined and there was literally no way for England to get through.
On comes Palmer, and straight away takes on his full back. This completely changes the defensive positions of the opposition, it was not about them getting tired. (although they possibly were, if there were allowed to stay in their positions they can still easily hold the defensive block!).
BTW i'm not saying it has to be Palmer and or Gordon that does this, if Saka and Foden play, then must be instructed to go take on / go outside their full back at least half the time they get the ball
If we don't play wide players against Slovakia, then I expect we'll have exactly the same problems.
Simples..
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I have to agree with you here. The way we are playing, a penalty shootout is about right. Seen it all before.
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