Caporegime
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What a ******* joke, so diving is fine now everyone as long as the ref doesn't see you. Way to take a stand.
Uefa retract Eduardo ban
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I totally agree mate and I'm all for it.
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That's a bit of double standards tbh. What if Man City threaten court action because the FA can't prove intent from Adebayor? Throwing their financial weight about just like Arsenal did.
Why should one incident of cheating be treated differently from another?
I think Arsenal have ruined their good reputation in football and will have terrible consequences for the game of football with getting it overturned as well. They should have accepted that Eduardo cheated and taken what was eseentially a small and fair punishment and moved on with some dignity intact.
+1...excellent result for Eduardo but im sure he will still be villified for it...for the record i do think he dove but it was kinda hard as it seemed like there was a bit of contact...well from the angles i saw it looked like there was.
Anyhow hopefully this will put to rest the sorry affair.
Celebrating in front of opposition fans is not cheating, but stamping on someones face, is altogether a different ball game.
We've ruined our good reputation by appealing against a decision which was discriminatory, good on them then.
But had the referee deemed it a 'dive' in game the worst that could have happened was a yellow card. With Greedy **** if the ref had deemed it a kick would have seen red.
The problems I have are that it was a yellow card offense, not a 2 game ban, and that UEFA had stated that they would punish no one else.
You can't bring in a rule for one offense, in one game, just because nothing else happened that day. UEFA should have charged him with diving, rather than "for deceiving the referee" it was easy to prove there was contact.
Just wait for Chelsea's to be overthrown now
If their offense is the same as Roma's that has been suggested on here, why have they faced twice the ban?
Roma had the ban reduced didn't they?
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No by bringing worldwide publicity to your player cheating and lying about it and the club supporting his actions by appealing a fair punishment of it. I'm surprised the business types at Arsenal didn't put a stop to it as it has no doubt cost worldwide support.
Arsenal should have appealed to UEFA to apply the same rule across the board, not to overrule it for their player if they had any interest in fairness or overcoming discrimination. Only someone with their Arsenal glasses on could paint this as any kind of victory for morality.
yup
They did. UEFA had already stated they weren't going to punish anyone else for this kind of offence. Thus, it was only fair that Arsenal got the same punishment, i.e. none.
I don't think anyone in this thread would particularly disagree with a crackdown on diving if one of the governing bodies actually thought it through and implemented it properly. What most of us are disagreeing with is the utterly cackhanded way this was handled, considering it never was a sign of things to come.
Look what happened at Man City as soon as he touched the ball, he got bood, same as the England game. As if Rooney, Gerrard or Lampard never look for the fould, which in my IMO that is all Eduardo was doing/
How is it fair when the offense in game carries a yellow card?
Because cheating to get a penalty potentially affects the outcome of a game which can't be retrospectively changed. If it's caught in the game then it doesn't negatively affect the other team. If it's not caught, then the theory, at least, is that cheats shouldn't prosper. Clearly Uefa aren't interested in sending that message though as in this case a cheat did prosper.
Personally, I would red card players who dive to obtain a goal-scoring opportunity. Then it matches the punishment dished out to those who deny goal-scoring opportunity.
Eduardo dived to get a penalty. What is 'looking for a foul' exactly? Yer fouled or you aren't. If you go down pretending to have been fouled when you haven't then you're cheating.
The reason that it's rampant is because people are only too happy to make excuses for these millionaire cheats when it suits them and their team. Decisions like Uefa's today benefit these millionaire cheats and the club they're currently 'only ever wanting to play for'. It doesn't benefit football, and it ultimately doesn't benefit the fans.
Is pulling of the shirt not cheating, and denying a goal scoring opportunity (at a corner for example, like you see in every game)?
Should those players not be treated the same?
Let's not forget Eduardo wasn't charged with 'Diving'
Should those players not be treated the same?
Let's not forget Eduardo wasn't charged with 'Diving'