Uefa retract Eduardo ban

Is pulling of the shirt not cheating, and denying a goal scoring opportunity (at a corner for example, like you see in every game)?

Should those players not be treated the same?

Let's not forget Eduardo wasn't charged with 'Diving'

That's fouling opponents. Eduardo didn't foul anyone. He pretended to be fouled himself. He was charged with deceiving the ref by diving to get a penalty. Uefa just don't have the balls to follow through with it. Why are you even defending Eduardo anyway? Is that what you want to see in the game? These millionaires theatrically throwing themselves to the ground pretending to be fouled?
 
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Davestar_delux in shock blaming Arsenal for the world's disasters. :D

Seems like its the next big thing...blame Arsenal for all the problems in football:rolleyes:

He just talks utter crap trying to compare a so called dive to a player purposely stamping on another players head...:rolleyes:

Anyways im glad UEFA saw sense in the end.
 
This is simply UEFA bottling it.
The only fair outcome from the appeal would've been Eduardo having his ban reduced to a yellow card.
He dived(.) and as it was consequently investigated he should've been punished just as every other diver is ie. a yellow card.
Any player who now gets booked in game for diving must have that card rescinded if they can prove they was any contact whatsoever no matter how slight that is.
Stupid move by UEFA, gutless *******.

Anyways im glad UEFA saw sense in the end.

lol?
 
The bottom line is that the governing bodies dont want to "clean up the game" - it creates more publicity when things like this happens, which creates more revenue! (there's no such thing as bad publicity!! ;))

If they wanted to stamp out cheating, diving etc etc - issue a statement today that says that one guy will review all incidents and if he even thinks that the player has cheated in any way - automatic 10-game ban without appeal.........and here's the bit that will do the trick - the players dont get paid while they are banned!!!!!

This would stop it happening overnight!

StevieP
 
That's fouling opponents. Eduardo didn't foul anyone. He pretended to be fouled himself. He was charged with deceiving the ref by diving to get a penalty. Uefa just don't have the balls to follow through with it. Why are you even defending Eduardo anyway? Is that what you want to see in the game? These millionaires theatrically throwing themselves to the ground pretending to be fouled?


It's still cheating though...

Eduardo dived, but he wasn't charged with that. The charge implied intend, how do you prove that? We have people saying you can't prove intend when someone breaks another players legs, so you can't with this.

He also wasn't the first player to do, and certainly won't be the last, so why charge him and then say the next week announce that no one else will be charged. Surely EVERY player should be charged?

Did Eduardo dive? Yes.

Do other players dive? Yes, all the time, without punishment.

Have UEFA made an example of Eduardo? Yes, without any question.

Let's be honest UEFA aren't covering themselves in glory, they called Eduardo up for the appeal on the day of the Croatia/England game.

At the end of the day it made no effect on the result, Arsenal have had players dive against them in bigger more important games that cost us the game, with no action.
 
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lol????...are u confused??:confused:

What i meant by that is that im glad UEFA saw sense in that there was no point in upholding the ban...as its been said numerous times that in the week after that Eduardo dive there were a few more 'dives' that went unpunished;).

The charge as Gooner14 just said was hard to prove...it was utterly stupid of UEFA to take any action of any sort...he should have got a yellow card end of really...whcih you stated above and i agree with completely.
 
He dived, but he didn't mean to dive? I take it the wink to camera was involuntary too :)

We all know he dived to get the pen. Like many players before him and like many players after him. Folk will cheat if they can get away with it, and Uefa have shown the lack of conviction necessary for it to continue as usual. To think that Wenger wanted rid of divers a year ago, and now Arsenal are paying forensic analysts to prove Eduardo was fouled when everyone can see he clearly wasn't. It's a good day for these millionaire cheats, and a bad day for your average football fan who just wants to watch good football.
 
Apparently there was footage shown in the appeal that included an alternative camera angle that wasn't shown during the televised broadcast of the match. Being a huge Arsenal fan I have to say that from the footage on the match day it did look to me as if Eduardo had taken a dive, but seeing as, unless any of us here were at the appeal then none of us has seen the whole evidence and are not qualified to say wether it was or dive or wasn't a dive. Also, Wenger had brought in forensic expert with video evidence that Eduardo was tripped. Arsene himself did say that on the night he thought that Artur Boruc did make contact with Eduardo, but he thought it was not a penalty. Either way it doesn't matter now anyway. What does matter to me is the 3 penalty decisions that were definite penalties in the weeks after the dive allegations that we were turned down for. Two of them at Utd and one on the weekend against City. It seemed to me that both referees were handing a lot of decisions to the other teams, and it might sound silly but it was if the decisions were made just to spite Arsenal.
 
Apparently there was footage shown in the appeal that included an alternative camera angle that wasn't shown during the televised broadcast of the match. Being a huge Arsenal fan I have to say that from the footage on the match day it did look to me as if Eduardo had taken a dive, but seeing as, unless any of us here were at the appeal then none of us has seen the whole evidence and are not qualified to say wether it was or dive or wasn't a dive. Also, Wenger had brought in forensic expert with video evidence that Eduardo was tripped. Arsene himself did say that on the night he thought that Artur Boruc did make contact with Eduardo, but he thought it was not a penalty. Either way it doesn't matter now anyway. What does matter is the 3 penalty decisions that were definite penalties in the weeks after the dive allegations that we were turned down for. Two of them at Utd and one on the weekend against City. It seemed to me that both referees were handing a lot of decisions to the other teams, and it might sound silly but it was if the decisions were made just to spite Arsenal.

Was it from Arsene Wenger's video phone? :) Who we kidding.

It is embarrassing to hear Arsenal fans queuing up to make excuses. I've always had a lot of respect for the way Arsenal try to play football, and for Arsenal fans who seemed to want to see football played right. This incident has been a real eye opener. Arsenal, Arsene Wenger, Eduardo, Uefa, and Arsenal fans have come out of this badly.
 
He dived, but he didn't mean to dive? I take it the wink to camera was involuntary too :)

We all know he dived to get the pen. Like many players before him and like many players after him. Folk will cheat if they can get away with it, and Uefa have shown the lack of conviction necessary for it to continue as usual. To think that Wenger wanted rid of divers a year ago, and now Arsenal are paying forensic analysts to prove Eduardo was fouled when everyone can see he clearly wasn't. It's a good day for these millionaire cheats, and a bad day for your average football fan who just wants to watch good football.

LOL just lol...i dont know who your answering to but i dont see anyone saying he didnt mean to dive...as for the wink??...are you just making things up for the sake of it??...i didnt see no wink and i have seen various clips of the so called dive...even watching the game unless you can show me clearly where he winked??...

Im sure UEFA would be interested in hearing that or seeing that but obviously there was no such 'wink' or else the charge would have stuck i think but if you can prove me wrong then i will continue to laugh at the 'clutching of straws' act your putting on...the fact they rescinded the charge proves the simple fact that they couldnt prove without a shadow of doubt that he deceived the ref....you can sit here and bitch all about it but the fact is UEFA couldnt prove that Eduardo deceived the ref which was the original charge...so lets keep to the facts.
 
Was it from Arsene Wenger's video phone? :) Who we kidding.

It is embarrassing to hear Arsenal fans queuing up to make excuses. I've always had a lot of respect for the way Arsenal try to play football, and for Arsenal fans who seemed to want to see football played right. This incident has been a real eye opener. Arsenal, Arsene Wenger, Eduardo, Uefa, and Arsenal fans have come out of this badly.

lol! I don't know, I'm just telling you what I've read. :)

On the night I did think to myself it was definitely not a penalty. Others have said the same thing that it had no effect on the outcome of the match but that still doesn't make behaviour like that acceptable. If there was another camera angle that we weren't shown though then I'd have to see that before I could decide wether Edu dived. But going on what we have all seen at the moment I would say it did appear as simulation to me, and that's coming from an Arsenal fan who doesn't want to see cheating in the game.
 
Arsenal, Arsene Wenger, Eduardo, Uefa, and Arsenal fans have come out of this badly.

And i wonder whos fault is that eh??...i would say its UEFA's fault for letting it get this far...it was stupid of them to even level that charge at him...when it was quite simple for Arsenal to prove that there was no deceiving of the ref.
 
lol????...are u confused??:confused:

What i meant by that is that im glad UEFA saw sense in that there was no point in upholding the ban...as its been said numerous times that in the week after that Eduardo dive there were a few more 'dives' that went unpunished;).

The charge as Gooner14 just said was hard to prove...it was utterly stupid of UEFA to take any action of any sort...he should have got a yellow card end of really...whcih you stated above and i agree with completely.

I wasn't sure if you were being serious.

Seeing sense would've been giving the player the correct punishment for what he did (a yellow card) not letting him off completely.
They got it half right by retracting his ban, that's where their sense ended.
 
LOL just lol...i dont know who your answering to but i dont see anyone saying he didnt mean to dive...as for the wink??...are you just making things up for the sake of it??...i didnt see no wink and i have seen various clips of the so called dive...even watching the game unless you can show me clearly where he winked??...

Was a smirk, not a wink. I was replying to Gooner and his argument about 'intent to dive'.

Im sure UEFA would be interested in hearing that or seeing that but obviously there was no such 'wink' or else the charge would have stuck i think but if you can prove me wrong then i will continue to laugh at the 'clutching of straws' act your putting on...the fact they rescinded the charge proves the simple fact that they couldnt prove without a shadow of doubt that he deceived the ref....you can sit here and bitch all about it but the fact is UEFA couldnt prove that Eduardo deceived the ref which was the original charge...so lets keep to the facts.

I'm sure Arsene Wenger and the forensic analyst said the same thing.

And i wonder whos fault is that eh??...i would say its UEFA's fault for letting it get this far...it was stupid of them to even level that charge at him...when it was quite simple for Arsenal to prove that there was no deceiving of the ref.

How did Arsenal simply prove this btw? :)

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It is embarrassing to hear Arsenal fans queuing up to make excuses. I've always had a lot of respect for the way Arsenal try to play football, and for Arsenal fans who seemed to want to see football played right. This incident has been a real eye opener. Arsenal, Arsene Wenger, Eduardo, Uefa, and Arsenal fans have come out of this badly.

Most Arsenal fans have said it was a Dive. We have only complained about the way UEFA are handling it.
 
Why are we trying to make a villain out of Eduardo? this happened weeks ago. UEFA have just got back saying that the appeal was successful and there will be no charge because they couldn't prove anything. That should be it really and all you amateur detectives could give it a rest now perhaps. Celtic were and would would have lost anyway, just the same as Rangers lost to us a few weeks before in the Emirates cup. It's all just sour grapes.
 
They should grow some balls and start banning all the divers. 1 match is fair enough. Diving some random dude a 2 match ban is stupid. He's still a cheat though
 
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