UFO footage released by US military
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There is one factor that might be a consideration there - take Einstein's hidden variables for instance - due to the controversial connotations of some potential explanations few people would work theories along those lines, etc. and people would go to great lengths to try and find other explanations, deride suggestions in those controversial areas and other nastiness towards people who might have an interest in those areas, etc. while maybe the explanation isn't in those areas it is possible that examining them and working the data might have led to other discoveries along the way that otherwise could have gone overlooked, etc.
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how does that logic work? that's like saying us or the Spanish would have wiped ourselves out before getting to the intercontinental phase of civilisation and obliterating the Aztecs etc. why do you not assume the strongest psychos would wipe out the rest then expand their horizons for more kills/spoils/territory/fun?
It's clearly a drone
There are various projects with much more advanced drones way beyond the current reapers/predators, watchkeeper, etc. not sure if there is anything off the ground yet but wouldn't surprise me if some countries are working on very advanced prototypes as they especially swarms are very useful in modern warfare.
Profile in the video looks quite a bit like the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_X-47B and advanced versions of the UTAP can supposedly approach 70-80K feet with speeds in excess of mach 1 and turns above 9G (then there is stuff like the Kratos XQ-222 designed for testing swarm applications and so on).
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LOL, one look at Trump and the conclusion has to be "They are amongst us!!!!" I expect every other speech to end "I am Groot".......If he isn't an evil alien overlord I'm a Dutchman..
I think this is the most probable view. They simply got caught out testing some of their own advanced tech. Rather than get into some "it's not one of ours" media frenzy, it easier to have people forget another "spooky UFO footage" claim. People were saying they saw black triangles over the desert decades before the US admitted to the F117 & B2, both of which are 30+ year old tech. With the innovations in materials and processing power, that even the average household has seen over the past 30 years, imagine what the good-stuff they keep to themselves must look like.
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It was going too fast.
If it was real they wouldn't release the footage
Last thing they want is to instill panic.
wouldn't instill panic. you'd get 85% "fake" comments on the internet and people would move on apart from the select few who would try and churn out memes of the footage. relegated to page 2 of the legit news sites w/in a day or so by the latest Holywood sex scandal.
If it was real they wouldn't release the footage
Last thing they want is to instill panic.
That doesn't make any sense. I'm pretty sure the footage is genuine. Or do you mean 'real' aliens? Supposing they are real aliens and someone in govt knows about it, how does that change anything - we have no new information, we still see the footage... yet no one seems to be panicking.
As a kid I used to believe that the US government was hiding all the secrets about UFOs but now I know they are basically as confused as anyone else.
The "cover up" if you want to call it that is because they don't want to say and don't know what they are. I also used to think they were alien craft, now I'm completely open to what they might be and most of the time it is something completely mundane.
The idea that aliens (little grey men) would fly about in them is fairly ridiculous. If these are craft from another world then they would probably be computer controlled or by an AI or means of life we are unlikely to recognise.
This is well worth a read on the case in the OP:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/16/pentagon-ufo-search-harry-reid-216111
The "cover up" if you want to call it that is because they don't want to say and don't know what they are. I also used to think they were alien craft, now I'm completely open to what they might be and most of the time it is something completely mundane.
The idea that aliens (little grey men) would fly about in them is fairly ridiculous. If these are craft from another world then they would probably be computer controlled or by an AI or means of life we are unlikely to recognise.
This is well worth a read on the case in the OP:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/16/pentagon-ufo-search-harry-reid-216111
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If it was real they wouldn't release the footage
Last thing they want is to instill panic.
Logically this statement makes no sense. You think if it was real they wouldn't release it because it could cause mass panic, so what you actually think is that they've released fake footage which looks real despite the fact it could cause mass panic? Help me out here
Eh? What "cover up" - they've released the footage and they've stated it it an unidentified flying object... they don't seem to have any issues saying they don't know what it is.
I'm talking about the subject historically. An alleged cover up since the 1940s is fairly commonly pointed to by the UFO community. This case is not the norm.
There are thousands of pages of documents that were and are still classified on the subject. There has also been seizure of materials from the FAA such as radar recordings by the US government. There are secrets surrounding the subject, but that is mainly because a lot of these things happened during the cold war and not because the government knew there were aliens in our airspace.
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I'm not one to say I believe in aliens or anything, but I was with a mate outside Cambridge (we met half way to go back to his to play fifa a few years back), middle of nowhere so pitch black. Looked up and in the sky high up we could see an array of lights almost dancing in a formation. It was very high but super quick. Like, they speed in which they changed formation at that height was ridiculous. They darted about for a bit almost looking for something and then all shot off. Both myself and mate saw it, we were just like WTF?! To this day I can't explain what I saw, but any normal craft like helicopter or plane could not maneuver in the way these did and then speed off like they did.
the point was re: your reasoning about "they don't want to say and don't know what they are", that doesn't really tie in with the fact they've released this footage
perhaps the other stuff you're referring to concerned stuff they do know about - i.e. experimental aircraft etc.. which they have good reason to conceal... however the idea of wanting to cover stuff up when they don't know is rather flawed
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