Uh-oh. PS3 'Orange Box' fails.

[Kamakazie!]

So if Sony's Dev Kit's are to blame, how come other dev's (Incognito, Infinity Ward, Naughty Dog etc.) are saying what an absolute dream it is to work on? - And there games turn out flawless.

And it pretty much is only EA who are putting out the poor games now, I can't think of any others.

Since when have any of those developers said the kits were "a dream" to work on?

I don't believe that at all. The 360 is basically a windows PC in a box, it's hardly like developing for 2 separate platforms. Valve took the easy way out by outsourcing and they knew what to expect of EA, Valve obviously had no intention of retaining any kind of quality of the orange box on ps3. They just wanted to get the title out in the cheapest way possible and watch those $$$ come rolling in...

Can't even be bothered to write a proper reply.... so much ****.

If call of duty 4 looks and runs fantastic I see no reason why other devs can't achieve the same results.

I love how every time a PS3 ports sucks, people bring CoD4 up. The CoD4 engine was built with the PS3 in mind, the Source engine was built before both the 360 and PS3 even existed.
Also, even with that in mind, the 360 version is said to be the slightly better of the 2 from comments i have read. Certainly not enough to make any real difference though.

Name one dev who is struggling with the PS3 other than EA?

There are LOADS of dev's that have expressed difficulty in programming for the PS3. Just because it CAN be done, doesn't mean it is easy. Why spend so much extra time coding for the PS3 over the 360 when the install base is less than half?
Like Gabe said, learning to program well for the PS3 is currently a waste of time because none of the skills are transferable.

Trouble is, once MS gains the monopoly it wants of the serious consoles, it will then turn its attention to Nintendo. How long before we see a handheld Xbox that competes with the DS? How long before MS starts putting pressure on Nintendo's suppliers to develop games for them instead? How long before Nintendo are reduced to the same status as Sega, a mere games-maker instead of the mighty console manufacturer it once was?

Are you serious?
Sony, with the full weight of the Playstation brand behind it couldn't compete with Nintendo in the handheld market. MS with pretty much Zero mass market brand recognition in the console market have no hope at the moment.
MS also have no hope of stopping 3rd party devs putting games on other systems. if this were the case, Sony would have done it a long time ago.... what with having 120m PS2s out there!

 

[NokkonWud]

In your opinion.. you make it sound like this a fact, plenty of people here are happy with the PS3, including me.
I am also happy with my 360

Of course it's my ****ing opinion, it's a ****ing forum. I'm really getting sick of people saying that stupid comment, it ****s me right off.

 

[RuMp3l4$k1n]

Need to starry the whole word out Nokkon, I had me a holiday for not doing that once.

 

[AS_Dodger]

In your opinion.. you make it sound like this a fact, plenty of people here are happy with the PS3, including me.
I am also happy with my 360

Ditto

 

[Baxtor]

Of course it's my ****ing opinion, it's a ****ing forum. I'm really getting sick of people saying that stupid comment, it ****s me right off.

And you are ****ing me and a lot of other people off, by trying to ram your ****ing opinion down everyones throat at every oportunity you get....

 

[Johnz0r]

What an idiotic post Nokkon, you sound like a child.

 

[Baxtor]

He is meant to be an underboss as well

 

[FrankJH]

Sony, with the full weight of the Playstation brand behind it couldn't compete with Nintendo in the handheld market. MS with pretty much Zero mass market brand recognition in the console market have no hope at the moment.
MS also have no hope of stopping 3rd party devs putting games on other systems. if this were the case, Sony would have done it a long time ago.... what with having 120m PS2s out there!

Sorry thats just daft - dont get me wrong N did exceptionally well with the wii competing with the phenomenal success of the PS2 - but a handheld is completely different from a console, different things are required and the PSP is still in its 1st iteration compared to how many for Nintendo - 4 or 5 (Game and Watch>>>Gameboy>>>DS)

 

[NokkonWud]

And you are ****ing me and a lot of other people off, by trying to ram your ****ing opinion down everyones throat at every oportunity you get....

How am I? Everything I post is opinion, I never state it as fact unless I post otherwise, so that would be you.

What an idiotic post Nokkon, you sound like a child.

Easy to say when you don't get people rabbiting on about stuff they don't know about, or are too uninformed to pass comment on what I say (or have said in the past). I get it daily and it's ridiculous now.

He is meant to be an underboss as well

I am an Underboss, correct. Still doesn't mean I should accept nonsense comments though.

 

[scorza]

Are you serious?
Sony, with the full weight of the Playstation brand behind it couldn't compete with Nintendo in the handheld market. MS with pretty much Zero mass market brand recognition in the console market have no hope at the moment.
MS also have no hope of stopping 3rd party devs putting games on other systems. if this were the case, Sony would have done it a long time ago.... what with having 120m PS2s out there!

Yup deadly serious. Microsoft want to control the entertainment in our lives. Once they've forced Sony out of the market they'll turn on Nintendo. Remember that Sony couldn't throw unlimited cash at the PSP like Microsoft do at the Xbox project.

 

[Johnz0r]

But surely from our perspective that is a nonsense comment? (In regards of sweary post)

 

[NokkonWud]

But surely from our perspective that is a nonsense comment? (In regards of sweary post)

If you look at the ridiculousness of the post I was replying to, a post I see more and more from more and more people "in your opinion..." it becomes very, very tiresome. I mean, it's stupid, let's be honest here, it's a forum, ALL comments are opinion.

 

[Metalface Mark]

These things will continue to happen while we are fed ports for our PS3's.

 

[Baxtor]

How am I? Everything I post is opinion, I never state it as fact unless I post otherwise, so that would be you.


Easy to say when you don't get people rabbiting on about stuff they don't know about, or are too uninformed to pass comment on what I say (or have said in the past). I get it daily and it's ridiculous now.

I am an Underboss, correct. Still doesn't mean I should accept nonsense comments though.

I am out of here before I earn myself a holiday, but before I go...
You have your opinion Nokkun fair play, but do you realise how incredibly annoying it becomes to see it posted in nearly every thread about the PS3
same old carp opinion ,over and over again, once is enough maybe twice for effect but really you go to far.
Shame there is not an ignore function here (is there?) because you would be first on it.

 

[Johnz0r]

These things will continue to happen while we are fed ports for our PS3's.

Aye, it's a bummer and the only real port that I have played on that has outshone the 360 version is DiRT the rest have been utter dross.

 

[Inoshishi]

Guys this thread is full of hate, group hug anyone?

 

[wedgie]

Shame there is not an ignore function here (is there?) because you would be first on it.

There is.

 

[NokkonWud]

I am out of here before I earn myself a holiday, but before I go...
You have your opinion Nokkun fair play, but do you realise how incredibly annoying it becomes to see it posted in nearly every thread about the PS3

I post my opinion in every thread practically, be it games, PS3, Wii or Xbox360.
Like I said, a lot of posters here are too new to understand that I've been just as critical of everything, not just the PS3, nor do they remember the positives I post about stuff.

I've had the same thing with a lot of new posters time and time again, but they all end up seeing that I don't play favourites, or make stuff up etc... I know I had this with JBeck not too long ago, but it was all cleared up in the end.

If you only choose to pay attention to what I say in PS3 threads then so be it, but you'll see I'm pretty active in every thread regardless of format, I'll praise what deserves praising and I'll criticise what deserves criticism too.

You say I post it 'time and time again', but do I not have to repeat myself for the multiple "Xbox360 or PS3" threads that appear for the people who can't be bothered searching in the first place?

same old carp opinion ,over and over again, once is enough maybe twice for effect but really you go to far.
Shame there is not in ignore function here (is there?) because you would be first on it.

My opinion isn't actually crap, it's honest and in almost all cases, informed.
There is an ignore function in your control panel. Feel free to ignore me, but you'll only be missing out on informed and honest posts as opposed to many uninformed of bias posts on this forum.

 

[NokkonWud]

Aye, it's a bummer and the only real port that I have played on that has outshone the 360 version is DiRT the rest have been utter dross.

Wait... hang on...
How come I get lynched for saying this?

 

[Johnz0r]

Aye, you do give an honest view of the consoles thats why I was a bit surprised that you snapped and gave us a few naughty words to learn. However, there is only so much people can take.