Okay, it's trolling.... IF trolling is pointing out obvious flaws. PS3 so far has done all the negative publicity all by itself.
I take the word of my friends as they have no reason to lie, they don't need to try and sound good by saying stuff, they don't act like kids (like a lot of people on here) and it's not like it's hear-say. They're all in the industry so they know a whole lot more than you, or even me for that matter.
But I'm hardly trolling by reporting back what's happening. Of course, as I've said, a lot of people are happy putting fingers in their ears and ignoring the obvious.
I would say it's trolling IF, people go out of their way to find, and critisize any point regarding the object in question, be it a PS3/360/Atari ST/Amiga/C64/Spectrum.
In this case, the trolling is even more obvious, as the pointing out of these "flaws" is about a game which this thread isn't even about.
Just because you may have overheard a bloke down the pub, who's aunties half brothers stepson, once farted near the sister of one of the barmen who once served somebody who lived near Rockstar, who left the window open while having a discussion about it, doesn't constitute proof of any kind, and further more, doesn't explain what on Earth that has to do with the Orange box anyway.
I think it's plain for all to see, that coding for the PS3 architechture is obviously different than the standard, symmetrical cores to be found in PCs and the XBOX cpu, than coding for various SPUs on the Cell CPU.
It would ideally involve planning, from a pre-programming stage, to allow for the various bits of code, to utilize the SPUs, to vastly improve efficiency and performance, and not simply to take a piece of currently existing code, and "shoehorning" it in, until it runs, as-is.
I'm sure, had they taken extra time with The Orange Box, to rework the code to run more efficiently on the PS3, it would have run every bit as good as the XBOX360 version, maybe even better, who knows? They obviously didn't want to take the extra time, to optimize it for a completely different platform, so just got it running as hastily as possible, to get it out of the door, and suck in the money.
I thought it was obvious by now that it is not a lack of power on the PS3s part that leaves ports like The Orange Box wanting, but a lack of effort (ie time/money) that would have to be spent, optimizing it for a different architecture. Once devs do learn how to better code their games to offload various codes to different SPUs, I'm sure we'll witness a much better class of game. It's not so hard to believe. The PS2 was also said to be hard to code for, but, look at the quality of titles that came out in 2000, compared to 2005/2006.
Fanboys, and indeed, trolls can't resist but to jump into every PS3 thread however, and just post some negativity, into whatever the subject, even if their comments and negativity have nothing to do with the subject at hand.
I don't really understand why people are like this. If you had a massive amount of shares in Microsoft it would make some kind of sense, but otherwise, it's just a games console!
As for the comments on the Orange Box being worse on the PS3. It makes no difference to me personally, as I got the PC version. If I owned both consoles, I'd be glad to read the reviews, so I could decide which version to purchase. Blaming the PS3 is stupid however. Blame EA for being lazy. Blame Valve for not giving them time to do it properly. Stop having a go at each other, it's not our fault... I remember the forums used to be a more friendly place, and you didn't have to think about posting something positive about the PS3, about any subject, and then get some idiot drop in, and post something negative about a totally different subject.
I'm not talking about this thread in particular of course, but blimey, even this turned into a discussion about the Orange Box, to a speculation-fest about GTA IV, which to be honest, none of us know about with any certainty anyway.
If people don't believe that the PS3 is capable of running a game like Half Life 2, which ran on the PC on a single core CPU at <3Ghz, on a GeForce 6, with no problems, then they're obviously deluding themselves of the fact that it just wasn't written very well on the PS3.
Sorry to derail the thread again, but some of the people in here just make me wonder what the hell is the matter with them. Are they the same with everything else? Hey man, your kettle is carp, 'cos mine boils water in 4.2 seconds faster than yours, and makes the worktop rumble?
V1N.