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What were they all smoking?
I'm assume they either have a really poor TV with naff HDR or they don't even have HDR and want to make themselves feel better.
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What were they all smoking?
I'm assume they either have a really poor TV with naff HDR or they don't even have HDR and want to make themselves feel better.
Its true some things look far worse in HDR. Games more often then not are far worse in HDR and some film/TV content is more pleasant to watch in SDR. That's not to say HDR is always worse other content like Planet Earth in HDR is better.
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Is there anyway to tell a TV has 'switched' to HDR mode? Netflix just shows the bitrate and resolution.
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I can't think of any games that look worse in HDR
You aren't talking about those faux HDR modes are you?
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Mass Effect Andromeda, The Last Of Us , Uncharted, Destiny 2, Monster hunter, Hitman all worse in HDR.
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Never tested it
Never tested it,
Uncharted 4 and Uncharted: The Last Legacy look stunning on my OLED
Never played it
Never played it
Again, the game of the year on Xbox One X looks really good.
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You should see a HDR logo pop up in the corner of your TV when you start a 4k/HDR show, if not check picture mode settings, it will be on a picture preset like HDR standard or Dolby Vision dark.
Yes it looks good but have you switched between SDR and HDR? Though to be fair I think part of the problem depends on the device you use. Screens seem to be handling HDR differently and HDR gaming monitors seem to be all over the place. Some HDR screens are so bad in HDR your eyes hurt/water, others are washed out in HDR. Neither of which is a pleasant gaming/TV experience. I think once HDR standards settle down its going to be well worth it. But right now there are a lot of people finding some HDR content is looking worse then SDR. But when it works correctly it is a massive improvement.
HDR being all over the place is one of the reasons I haven’t brought a HDR device yet. Going wait a generation or two before getting one for TV/films. As for HDR gaming monitors still not found a decent one that fits my specs, so I think I have to wait a generation or two there as well.
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There are a number of articles eg games-look-bad-part-1-hdr-and-tone-mapping
on how hdr game animation have yet to catch up with the cinema experience games they call out
Battlefield 1, Uncharted: Lost Legacy, Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare, and Horizon Zero Dawn
(as Pottsey said)
but the hdr game experience (vs sdr) will be much more diverse across tv brands due to the tvs tone-mapping technique, since for sdr everyone has brightness/contrast/colour-spaces that are closer/exceeding specs
on how hdr game animation have yet to catch up with the cinema experience games they call out
Battlefield 1, Uncharted: Lost Legacy, Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare, and Horizon Zero Dawn
(as Pottsey said)
but the hdr game experience (vs sdr) will be much more diverse across tv brands due to the tvs tone-mapping technique, since for sdr everyone has brightness/contrast/colour-spaces that are closer/exceeding specs
hi , is your tv switching to HDR mode using netflix ?
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On my Sony XE9005 the only way to tell that the TV is in HDR mode is to check the Picture settings, there is no indication display on the TV when you put on something that it is HDR. However once you start getting used to HDR you do kinda get an inkling just looking at the screen whether HDR is active. And if you go in and turn it on and then off the difference between HDR and SDR is so obvious - especially on something like the Star Trek Series.
I understand a lot of people saying HDR looks worse because when I first got it I too thought that as the first thing I tried was Bright on Netflix and that is a dark film which meant the darks where extra emphasised, but as soon as I then compared the HDR to SDR I began to understand.
I understand a lot of people saying HDR looks worse because when I first got it I too thought that as the first thing I tried was Bright on Netflix and that is a dark film which meant the darks where extra emphasised, but as soon as I then compared the HDR to SDR I began to understand.
And that there is more often than not the problem, the HDR displays.
Unfortunately the vast majority of displays out there especially "HDR" monitors are awful, they shouldn't even be allowed to advertise HDR as a feature when they are nowhere near meeting the HDR requirements
I've seen far too many people say HDR is **** all because they saw it on a "fake" HDR display.
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Just had a quick skim through and see it is just a general article about tone mapping etc.
They should compare different TVs for HDR gaming to see which is best. As shown by HDTV tests, some TVs look better in certain areas where as other tvs look better in other areas.
As for HDR gaming, not played anything on my set yet due to no console and no GPU capable of it but I wouldn't be surprised if there are issues with HDR in some games (especially by lazy/**** developers). One thing for certain is that PC gaming certainly doesn't look to be smooth sailing when it comes to HDR, where as consoles seem to handle it flawlessly.
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Forgot to check it, I did try (is it called) altered carbon which looked great image quality. Need to get my hands on a player and mad max as when I saw that in a shop the depth of image looked incredible. I'll check Netflix for hdr tonight
Its alright , ive just read on another forum that my TV wont trigger HDR though the apps (annoying ) but it will through a device , so i'll give the xbox S ago when i get in
Which TV do you have?
DX65 902b
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I've I got a Samsung 4k tv. The ONKY time 4k/ hdr logo pops up is when I'm using my panny 4k player. Otherwise I go into picture settings to check my dynamic range is whacked to max
Checked tonight and the app does do hdr on Netflix. Doesn't say hdr but backlight and contrast switch to 100
Not sure which Dx model you have but Netflix will definitely work for HDR you should see the brightness go to 100 in the settings, Amazon is having issues on the Tv's currently as they have updated to HDR10+ but the Tv's have not, and BBc Iplayer on the 2016 range wont do HLG via the APP on through HMDI, this is taken from a response i received from Panasonic.