Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Werewolf said:
I'm honestly not sure if the Russians have the capacity to keep the artillery supplied for sustained, large scale barrages.

They seem to be having issues with supplying food and fuel to their troops, and apparently their logistics corps is about half the size of the equivalent US/Western one, whilst a single barrage from one of their rocket vehicles uses a full truck load.
Their logistics setup from what I understand is designed to be working in conjunction with nearby railway resupply not advancing into another country and relying on the road network to keep units supplied, so they've got less vehicles dedicated to resupply than the US, whilst at the same time they're far more "consumable" heavy than the US due to their reliance on artillery, the end result is that it's much harder to keep their heavy/long distance stuff stocked up. That's before you consider that the vehicles carrying the supplies are basically unarmoured sitting ducks to anyone with a fairly light weapons, let alone people with stuff designed to take out armoured targets and you get a situation where every supply vehicle hit massively impacts the ability to carry on.
Apparently their fuel supply situation is even worse because they have even fewer bowsers in comparison to the US, again because their doctrine calls for laying things like fuel pipelines or rail supply to relatively near the front, so every time the Ukrainians take one out the effect on the Russians is amplified as it not only affects the front line fighting vehicles, but the ability to keep the supply vehicles running.

Apparently the Russians also do "push" logistics where the commanders at base decide what is needed according to the plan and send it forward, which is great if things are going to plan, but it means that if they're not, or even if it's going well but you use more of something than planned you can end up without it until command know, acknowledge and deal with it, the US (and much of the west) have much more flexibility with units requesting supplies and getting them as a high priority. It seems to be an offshoot of the way the western/Russian doctrine differs in things like artillery and air support requests where in the west it's often the case that someone right on the front line can call for it*, whilst in Russia it requires higher authority.

Basically from what I understand the Russians are in a bad place to maintain artillery barrages even if the Ukrainians only had light weapons, as they started out without enough of a supply train (in the area) to keep it up, and the Ukrainians seem to have been paying special attention to that supply chain.

The cynic in me suspects part of the reason they've been doing local "cease fires" the last few days is it gives them a few hours at least in which to move supplies up to the artillery, and for them to get ready for the next heavy barrage.

Also iirc Kiev was rebuilt after WW2 specifically to act as a fort/slow down invasions, with very large numbers of bunkers/reinforced hold outs which is very different to the sorts of areas the Russians have flattened in Chechnya and Syria, they might be able do massive damage and kill vast numbers of civilians who are caught out in the open, but potentially still have a lot of armed defenders left operating (and those would be armed defenders who have had access to enough anti tank weapons to take out armoured vehicles in the open, let alone in conditions that were designed to hostile to invading armour).



*They're trained to do so, and trusted to know where and when it's needed, and the risks if they're calling for it to be near them.
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Add to this, the Ukranian forces actively targetting logistics (ala western training). Wear down the enemies ability to fight
 
As long as Putin is still in power they will keep pushing, they have the numbers to chip away slowly but surely whatever the cost to them.

I don't know what he expects to gain though as the west will not lift sanctions if they try to occupy Ukrain or put in a puppet goverment.

There is no end game for him here and he must now know that.

One possible scenario for him very sadly to say is the assination of Zelensky, they could then say the Neo nazis in power have been eliminated, job done and home they go.
 
Sankari said:
I said 'significant conflict.' You cannot seriously be pretending that the 2014 conflict in Donbas is equivalent to the Bosnian genocide of the mid 1990s. That's like comparing baby peas to giant pumpkins.
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It's like comparing the annexation of Crimea and the ongoing war that resulted from it to the war of today which just seems to be a continuation of it.

or are you comparing what's going on now to the Bosnian genocide and Balkans wars?

why you gotta be so defensive instead of admitting he was wrong or just shouldn't comment on something if he has no knowledge of it.
 
bris said:
As long as Putin is still in power they will keep pushing, they have the numbers to chip away slowly but surely whatever the cost to them.
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I'm not sure on that - Putin seems very reluctant to commit from their main armed forces or mainstay reserve stock and they are getting through, in terms of replacing losses, what was pulled out of mothballed stock and put back into service - without touching their regular army it will take time to conscript/draft new soldiers and put more older stock into service.

(That isn't to say regular army isn't used in Ukraine at all - but the force is significantly bulked out from new draft soldiers and older equipment than even their reserve stock).

Putin seems quite paranoid about depleting the main army - maybe he really does think the West might attack Russia.
 
deuse said:
I would say.
We are getting the people needed to build a LNG plant.
The site has been chosen and work will begin this year.

See how easy that was.
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But as ever your just making stuff up.
I dont think Germany need to comply with Deuses specifics of how he wants their planning to add capacity of LNG added. Plus its not that newsworthy in the UK so you need to dig a bit deeper to see whats actually happening.
Knowing Germans and seeing them work, it will probably be done with their usual calculated and technical ways of doing things. At least they wouldn't have Boris looking to build a bridge ;)
And lets face it, its far far away from your derp of 2026. Maybe come back in 2026 and see if they did anything, or just sat there and waited for the oil and gas to run out.

The Funktopus said:
Well, there are FSRU’s, floating storage and regasification units, essentially an LNG carrier with added equipment on deck for processing liquid natural gas back into gas, and feeding it into a national grid. All the receiving terminal would really need to be is a jetty to moor the thing to and a pipeline connection to the grid. Some berth’s also feature a flare stack for dealing with excess gas, and an electricity supply for the FSRU, but these are ocean going ships with their own generators capable of supplying their needs, if need be. Look at an FSRU called ‘Independence’ in Klaipeda, Lithuania for instance.

Incidentally, Germany commissioning some FSRU’s would be quite handy for me in my line of work.
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Thanks thats really interesting. I am sure they are looking at all the options, seeing as they were about to commission a massive pipeline (that would be where people with brain cells would logically go, but why!!!??) they are probably a week or two off starting with the diggers ;)
I just get kinda wound up when some people just have to be so obviously moronic in their posting, I know I shouldn't, its why I tend to ignore GD as they end up here after getting banned elsewhere posting the same drivel ;)
As I said I dont see why they cant just post their irrational hating of the EU and not have to try to hide behind nonsense they made up in their heads :)
 
Rroff said:
Putin seems quite paranoid about depleting the main army.
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He's a fascist: Obsession with National Security is a key feature of fascist regimes. But even taken rationally, Russia is a massive country, so any reasonable attempt at a strong defensive position needs a lot of troops; the proportion of it that he can throw at a war of aggression is limited. Quite apart from the role of the army in suppressing internal dissent.
 
deuse said:
You know one can buy a electric boiler?
I have a combi boiler that I won't use now.
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You know that electric boliers to buy initially are expensive and more expensive to run than gas so just switching over for most isn't viable. Completely mental to just push that what everyone should do. You happy to subsidise my increase electric cost and install cost?
 
Custor said:
As the world didn’t act about Turkey invading Syria….Russia thought … why not us too?

What sanctions?
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Heh, Turkey effectively annexed Idlib. Their problem is it is full of alQaeda types, and they are now stuck with them.

It does make me wonder what would happen If Russia started bombing the hell out of Idlib. Those people could then try to flee into Turkey proper. Another refugee flow of middle Eastern people might be an issue for europe...
 
potatolord said:
Heh, Turkey effectively annexed Idlib. Their problem is it is full of alQaeda types, and they are now stuck with them.

It does make me wonder what would happen If Russia started bombing the hell out of Idlib. Those people could then try to flee into Turkey proper. Another refugee flow of middle Eastern people might be an issue for europe...
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Well they're not getting in through Thrace and it doesn't look like they're finding any success through Belarus either.

So no I do not think this would work.
 
Musty Pie said:
mes are quick to buy and install, so its not an issue!
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bingham67 said:
News from here been pretty sporadic last few days seems to be a major lull in fighting and more bombings from Russia.

Its not as full on it was popping off all the time a week ago.
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dLockers said:
Tbh I think people are losing interest.
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Thanks for your replies .

Yes last week it was every few mins which made me think it was not working atm the moment but as always since i posted there has been a new post.

Thanks again for the replies .
 
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