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At a minimum Ukraine will have to recognise Crimea, PRL and PRD as regions of Russia imo.
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At a minimum Ukraine will have to recognise Crimea, PRL and PRD as regions of Russia imo.
*Russian Investigative Committee Opens Case in Connection With Meta’s Actions -TASS
*Ukraine’s President Zelensky: Ukraine Has Reached a Strategic Turning Point in the War.
*Ukraine’s President Zelensky: It Will Take Time and Patience to Achieve Victory.
*Ukraine’s President Zelensky: President Says Russia Is Deploying Syrian Mercenaries
*Ukraine’s President Zelensky: If War Continues It Means More Sanctions Are Needed From Ukraine’s Partners
*Ukraine's President Zelensky: Stronger Moves Needed From European Union
*Ukraine's President Zelensky: Russia Should Be Punished for Firing at Humanitarian Corridors
*Ukraine's President Zelensky: Urges Start of Spring Sowing Despite War
https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1502254823185518600
https://twitter.com/C_Barraud/status/1502255912379166721
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Erdoğan speaking Live:
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More russian brides for the rest of the world
(If they are allowed to leave Russia ofc)
Don
As a comparison to Russia in Afghanistan, they’ve already lost in 2 weeks a comparable amount of soldiers lives to what they lost in 10+ years of the war in Afghanistan.
2014 says hello
Soldato
As much as I'm sure the Ukrainian people don't want to lose any territory, losing the DPR and LPR and backing off from NATO - in favour of close EU, is the least worst option.
That or Ukraine is left a flattened graveyeard.
Caporegime
More russian brides for the rest of the world
(If they are allowed to leave Russia ofc)
Would you ever trust your food or drink again?
Soldato
And then what? In 10 years time Putin thinks the "new" east coast of Ukraine also wants to be liberated. They can't concede anything now; it's gone too far. The only thing they could concede is not joining Nato (because being on the "front" Nato would do what they've done again) but Russia to give back all land (maybe except Crimea) and pay for rebuild.
Well if the winter war is anything go by they'll lose more territory if they continue regardless.
I get that they can't really publicly concede anything and they shouldn't until they feel the Russian forces have been dismantled enough that continuing the war is nigh impossible without Russia going full war economy, but if Russia wants those republics they can easily do so.
E: To mitigate that I suppose there's a possibility for keeping those lands, but I'm not sure how it could be done whilst ensuring Russia stays out of it without essentially giving up sovereignty of the rest of the country through a Russian stooge.
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Erdoğan:
- Ukraine and Russia are neighbours, conflict between them upset us
- If world didn’t keep silent while Russia annexed Crimea, there would be no crisis in Ukraine now
- Ukraine left alone against Russia
Source: https://twitter.com/TRTWorldNow/status/1502259244875362310
*Mayor of Ukraine’s Odessa: Russia May Try to Surround City and Carry Out Possible Naval Landing
https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1502260718762180608
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Soldato
Only need to wait for the inevitable discontent occurring within Russia. Putin will be fighting for survival at home and not too worried about his special wars. He must fail and be seen to do so badly.
*Mayor of Ukraine’s Odessa Says Russia May Go via Transdniestria to Surround Odessa
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All true for once
Erdoğan:
- International system once again failed during Ukraine crisis
- UN structure is unjust, no democracy among members
- Those speaking out structural failures at UN are silenced
https://twitter.com/TRTWorldNow/status/1502259244875362310
https://twitter.com/TRTWorldNow/status/1502261264692752386
Caporegime
No, it's one of the worst options, because it only emboldens Putin to push harder for more, and turn Ukraine into a flattened graveyard a little later.
If that happens, we might as well tell Putin he can keep any country he invades.
I said 'significant conflict.' You cannot seriously be pretending that the 2014 conflict in Donbas is equivalent to the Bosnian genocide of the mid 1990s. That's like comparing baby peas to giant pumpkins.
Erdogan in sensible comment shocker! I hope he puts his money where his mouth is.
"Ukrainians are proud people who always defend their land, and will not give the occupier a single piece of this land, not a single percent of their freedom." - Zelensky addresses the nation
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1502262480260714498
~going away for a bit
Soldato
Not if agreements are put in place first. Also, "Western" Ukraine being left alone to seek closer ties to EU would also be able to arm itself properly. Ukraine wouldn't need to join NATO.
Right now, neither side is going to back down, neither side is quite sure whose winning. Putin isn't going to be removed internally so some kind of deal has to be made. He also isn't going to just withdraw as things haven't gone as expected. He will just escalate.
Soldato
Well, there are FSRU’s, floating storage and regasification units, essentially an LNG carrier with added equipment on deck for processing liquid natural gas back into gas, and feeding it into a national grid. All the receiving terminal would really need to be is a jetty to moor the thing to and a pipeline connection to the grid. Some berth’s also feature a flare stack for dealing with excess gas, and an electricity supply for the FSRU, but these are ocean going ships with their own generators capable of supplying their needs, if need be. Look at an FSRU called ‘Independence’ in Klaipeda, Lithuania for instance.
Incidentally, Germany commissioning some FSRU’s would be quite handy for me in my line of work.
As the world didn’t act about Turkey invading Syria….Russia thought … why not us too?
What sanctions?
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