Ukraine average wage is now 155$ a month.
They even out-shined Moldova.
They even out-shined Moldova.
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Ukraine, the African country in middle of Europe.
Ukraine wouldnt even last 2 weeks in an all out war.
What would happen is that Russia would have air superiority pretty much instantly, Russian ships + subs will be used as rocket launch platforms along side land based ones like the SS-21 and Iskander... This would be used to crush any air defence units and in combination with air-force this would be deadly.
Couple that with a land massed invasion which is heavily supported from sources mentioned above... and you`ll see that Ukraine would be in quite of a bind pretty quickly.... Especially given that all the more or less trained soldiers are all in Donbass region, they would be surrounded pretty fast and cut off their supplies and then bombed to hell... Once those are out of the picture, all you have left is civillians to fight against in rest of Ukraine.
I am not even sure if theres any units left in western Ukraine along side border of Belarus, Russians can launch an assault from there and essentially just walk through to Kiev.
What would happen is that Russia would have air superiority pretty much instantly, Russian ships + subs will be used as rocket launch platforms along side land based ones like the SS-21 and Iskander... This would be used to crush any air defence units and in combination with air-force this would be deadly.
Couple that with a land massed invasion which is heavily supported from sources mentioned above... and you`ll see that Ukraine would be in quite of a bind pretty quickly.... Especially given that all the more or less trained soldiers are all in Donbass region, they would be surrounded pretty fast and cut off their supplies and then bombed to hell... Once those are out of the picture, all you have left is civillians to fight against in rest of Ukraine.
I am not even sure if theres any units left in western Ukraine along side border of Belarus, Russians can launch an assault from there and essentially just walk through to Kiev.
Well Scorza, there are few things to take into consideration.
Stalin is for sure a dubious character but he isnt recognized as the ultimate evil unlike Hitler, whether you like it or not. If I remember correctly, Nazi symbolism is banned in whole of Europe while Soviet (apart from Eastern European countries) is not... Walk in downtown London or NYC with portrait of Stalin and then do same with Hitler and see the reaction.
But lets get away from that, I think we all agree that Nazis were bad right? Well you see, the issue, is that in western Ukraine they are sorta confused... Because their favorite hero "Stepan Bandera"... Lets put aside the whole affiliation with Nazi`s and all that nonsense which Ukranians argue that all that is a total lie... Forget about that.
Lets see in what glorious non-nazi activities did UPA participate.
Women and Children?
Glorious!Surely one would condemn such organization and their leader? Well,no... not really... They have monuments to him in Lvov, they carried his portrait on Maidan, and remember that red/black flag? Yup, its the flag of UPA. Is it banned? Of-course not!!! Its also the flag of completely legalized political party called "Right-Sector"... Mind you, all soviet emblems are now completely banned in Ukraine.
You also have to understand that there is fundamental difference between Stalin monuments and whole UPA and Bandera worshiping, Stalin monuments do not carry the dangerous and vile ideology of Nationalism and superiority that the UPA and Bandera carried and is so closely tied to Nazism.
Stalin as bad as he is, never said that the Russians were superior race and that the Russians were above all... Quite opposite, there was the whole idea of friendship between ethnicities and moreover, you have to remember that Stalin was Georgian, he always spoke in Russian with a heavy accent. Yes there was behind the scenes gulags and deportations etc, but it wasnt spread onto the common people to hate other ethnicity on contrary it was throwned upon, friendship and tolerance were encouraged, which is opposite to what happened in Nazi-Germany and what is now happening in Ukraine where they hate anything and everything Russian. I`ve seen plenty of interviews on Ukranian TV where they said that its great that Crimea has left because all the "backwards Russians" will no longer pull Ukraine back from its glorious future. All those constant references that Donbass and Crimea were useless regions sucking out money from prosperous Ukraine and actually its quite common to call Donbass "Daunbass" which is pretty much saying "Down-Syndrome Donbass".
In short, there always been statues of "Almost Hitler" in Kiev and Lvov. Its vile that the flag of UPA hasnt been banned and compared to Swastika by law.
Well whats interesting is that the family on my dads side (more like grandads), is from Western Ukraine and quite a few of older ones served in OUN-UPA... My grandma`s, mother was responsible for radio communications for the UPA.
My grandad joined the soviet army and later became an officer, as result of this, his and his wife`s families both disowned them and forbade to ever come back to western Ukraine to see them. Time heals and I think around 1990`s they went back and it wasnt so bad but I mean, by then their immediate families were long dead and buried. My grandad still has a photo album which features some pictures of his relatives wearing UPA uniforms along with SS-Galizien.
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