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Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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No, Le Pen is funded by Russian money
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But isn't that only because her party has effectively been black listed by French banks.
Whilst clearly not every Russian is a murdering raping scumbag the world doesn’t have much appetite for things Russian at the moment and understandably wishes to distance itself from the country. Ordinary Russians may wonder why their athletes can’t compete and that may help to open their eyes.
Allegedly Putin stopped his eldest daughter from leaving the country for somewhere hot to spend her 37th birthday. Because she wasn't coming back.
Sanctions must be biting.
*Russian Ministry Of Defense: Russian Artillery And Missiles Strike 1001 Targets In Ukraine Overnight
*Russian Ministry Of Defense: The Russian Armed Forces And The Luhansk People's Republic Militia Have Taken Full Control Of The Village Of Kremena, Which Was Once A Stronghold Of Ukrainian Nationalists
*Russian Ministry Of Defense: On The Night Of April 20, Russian Tactical And Army Aviation Attacked 20 Areas Where The Ukrainian Army Concentrated Its Soldiers And Military Equipment
*Russian Ministry Of Defense: In The Past 24 Hours, Russian Air Defense Forces Shot Down 13 Ukrainian Unmanned Aerial Vehicles And 1 Dot-U Missile
*Russian Ministry Of Defense: Since The Special Military Operation, The Russian Army Has Destroyed More Than 500 UAVs On The Ukrainian Side
*The Ukrainian Armed Forces Use the Mariupol Children’s Rehabilitation Center As a Shooting Position — RIA
*The Russian Ministry of Defense Released a New (Fourth) Detailed List of Ukrainian Military Casualties, Including 20 Dead and 68 Deserters — RIA
*Russia Fines Google 4mln Roubles Over Its Failure to Delete ‘Fake’ Information About Special Operation in Ukraine — Reuters
*Moscow Court Fines Google After Finding It Guilty of Illegally Distributing Video Clips Produced by Ukrainian Far-Right Groups — TASS — Reuters
*Russia and Belarus Will Respond to Strengthening of NATO Forces on Borders of Union State — TASS Cites Russian Foreign Ministry
*Ukraine's Deputy Prime Minister Demands Russia To Allow Immediate Humanitarian Corridor For Civilians In Azovstal
*Danish Prime Minister Pledges To Deliver More Weapons To Ukraine
*Japan's Marubeni: Will Freeze All New Transactions In Russia Including Those Not Subject To Sanctions, Will Seek To Terminate Existing Deals As Much As Possible
*UK's Prime Minister Johnson: Hoping To Complete Another Free Trade Agreement With India By The End Of This Year
*UK's Prime Minister Johnson: India And UK Have Shared Anxieties About Autocracies In The World
*Russian Ministry Of Defense: The Russian Armed Forces And The Luhansk People's Republic Militia Have Taken Full Control Of The Village Of Kremena, Which Was Once A Stronghold Of Ukrainian Nationalists
*Russian Ministry Of Defense: On The Night Of April 20, Russian Tactical And Army Aviation Attacked 20 Areas Where The Ukrainian Army Concentrated Its Soldiers And Military Equipment
*Russian Ministry Of Defense: In The Past 24 Hours, Russian Air Defense Forces Shot Down 13 Ukrainian Unmanned Aerial Vehicles And 1 Dot-U Missile
*Russian Ministry Of Defense: Since The Special Military Operation, The Russian Army Has Destroyed More Than 500 UAVs On The Ukrainian Side
*The Ukrainian Armed Forces Use the Mariupol Children’s Rehabilitation Center As a Shooting Position — RIA
*The Russian Ministry of Defense Released a New (Fourth) Detailed List of Ukrainian Military Casualties, Including 20 Dead and 68 Deserters — RIA
*Russia Fines Google 4mln Roubles Over Its Failure to Delete ‘Fake’ Information About Special Operation in Ukraine — Reuters
*Moscow Court Fines Google After Finding It Guilty of Illegally Distributing Video Clips Produced by Ukrainian Far-Right Groups — TASS — Reuters
*Russia and Belarus Will Respond to Strengthening of NATO Forces on Borders of Union State — TASS Cites Russian Foreign Ministry
*Ukraine's Deputy Prime Minister Demands Russia To Allow Immediate Humanitarian Corridor For Civilians In Azovstal
*Danish Prime Minister Pledges To Deliver More Weapons To Ukraine
*Japan's Marubeni: Will Freeze All New Transactions In Russia Including Those Not Subject To Sanctions, Will Seek To Terminate Existing Deals As Much As Possible
*UK's Prime Minister Johnson: Hoping To Complete Another Free Trade Agreement With India By The End Of This Year
*UK's Prime Minister Johnson: India And UK Have Shared Anxieties About Autocracies In The World
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Given the sheer scale of destruction in Ukraine that the Russians have caused, is it that outrageous to suggest that Ukraine would have been better off surrendering at the beginning and instead operating a counter insurgency?
We've seen from Iraq how difficult it is to occupy an enemy country, so the Ukrainians could have employed similar tactics to overthrow the Russians?
We've seen from Iraq how difficult it is to occupy an enemy country, so the Ukrainians could have employed similar tactics to overthrow the Russians?
We live in a networked, media driven world now too, comparing it to the 80s is folly. Public opinion is important and now massively swayed by PR/propagand, presentation and gestures. Winning the pr war is just as important as the actual war.
It just isn't right to have Russian players at a prestigious British tournament.
Sets a precedence that Russia can just go and roll over any country it likes though.
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People who want bank loans typically have to show they have a way of paying back the loan - politicians usually get funding from donations rather than bank loans because by definition political parties don't generate cash with which to repay the loans. This is typically true for most western/democratic countries. Sometimes they can get a loan if there's a big election coming up but they would still have to show fund raising that would be able to return that loan over time.
Where it's not true is countries where the banks are state owned and the state wants to gain influence over said politicians.
So yes it is probably true that french banks wont lend her money based purely on the fact that she she has no means of paying it back, where as Russian state owned banks are quite happy to accept "favours" as payment.
So whilst it might technically be true that she's been unable to get a bank loan, without knowing anything about her parties revenue and what bank loan she was asking for, I don't buy "going cap in hand to Putin was my only option" as a valid excuse for being pro Putin, pro toddler raping and old person murdering.
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No. Look at what happened in the Russian occupied areas. Rape and murder of civilians. Now imagine you let Russia take the whole country and carry out the same on an even wider scale ...
That sort of thing is taking place regardless though. If Ukraine fell to Russian hands they couldn't realistically spread their troops all across the country and it would be very hard to counter sporadic fighting. At least that way innocent civilians wouldn't have been displaced from their homes, a lot of which are now destroyed and many people wouldn't have lost their lives.
I think Ukraine has been manipulated and encouraged by the West to a degree to mount an all out fight so the West can guage Russia's military might, but in truth it's not in Ukraine's best interest.
They're doing that anyway though, Chechnya, Georgia, Crimea, now Ukraine.
Aside from other considerations - Russian occupation forces wouldn't have their hands tied the same as international forces did in places like Iraq - insurgency would be put down far harsher with a lot more indiscriminate measures and achieve very little other than give the occupation forces a bit of a headache.
Without direct help from other countries Ukraine is going to fall anyway. The thought that they can beat Russia might be a noble one, but ultimately it's going to cost a lot people their lives and destroy the country.
I don't think an outright fight is the way to play this personally, who knows how much longer Putin is going to be around anyway, if a new leader is brought into power in Russia they might take an entirely different view to Ukraine if there is enough dissent from the people there.
If they did there wouldn't be a Ukraine anymore.
"But isn't Hitler making the Soviet pact and invading peeps only because French et al banks have either blacklisted him or want waaay too many fees?"
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That line of thinking leads to our parents/grandparents all having never stood up to Hitler and us all living in a world where a dictator mass executes anyone who he doesn't like. Most of us think we should all be doing much more to help Ukraine, not that Ukraine should have rolled over from the outset.
The longer Putin is in power and actually in control, the higher the chance the next person will be just as bad. You don't change things by capitulating. In hindsight the west should have stood up to Putin much sooner, not exacerbate past mistakes by repeating them.
What is your opinion regarding all the other neighbouring countries of Russia btw, which should surrender to Russia asap?
China
*China State Energy Firms in Talks for Shell’s Russian LNG Stake
*Italian Energy Regulatory Agency: Russia's Natural Gas Supply To Europe May Stop In May
*Russian Foreign Ministry: Two British Fighters Captured in Ukraine’s Mariupol Are Being Fed and Watered and Given Necessary Help
*Russian Foreign Ministry: Calls On Britain To Stop Supplying Arms To Ukraine
*Russian Central Bank Governor Nabiullina: Russia Needs To Avoid Economic Self-Isolation
*Russian Central Bank Governor Nabiullina: It Is Realistic To Approach The Inflation Target Of 4% In 2024 And We Are Prepared To Do So Smoothly
*Russian Central Bank Governor Nabiullina: Russia Will Make Real Settlements With Digital Rouble In 2023
*Russian Central Bank Governor Nabiullina: We Expect That The Digital Rouble Will Be Used In International Transactions
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