Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

areksnumbr1sxylady · 19 Feb 2015 at 05:02

Harlequin said:
btw you notice pretty much all the old soviet republics are now arming up?

Rightly so, its going to save them in case Russia decides to invade them.

Especially the Baltics, those guys are truly lethal

RoboCod · 19 Feb 2015 at 06:07

Baltics and Belarus next.

Domo · 19 Feb 2015 at 07:11

Yeah so Michael Fallon says in today's papers. Bit of a reckless thing to come out with in my opinion. Especially for a defence secretary.
Headline grabbing speculation.

scorza · 19 Feb 2015 at 07:38

Captain Planet said:
Baltics and Belarus next.

Thought Belarus was already part of Putin's customs union? i.e. under his control.

Domo said:
Yeah so Michael Fallon says in today's papers. Bit of a reckless thing to come out with in my opinion. Especially for a defence secretary.
Headline grabbing speculation.

You call it speculation but others including myself would see it as identifying possible future threats so we can start to plan for them. IMO first thing we should do is increase the defence budget significantly.

ShaolinDreams · 19 Feb 2015 at 07:40

"tower im having troubles taking off"
"run faster Sergei!"

ubersonic · 19 Feb 2015 at 09:13

ShaolinDreams said:
"tower im having troubles taking off"
"run faster Sergei!"

"Too close for water balloons, gotta switch to spitting"

DailyGeek · 19 Feb 2015 at 10:02

Erm

RAF jets scrambled after Russian aircraft seen off Cornwall - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31530840

Noxia · 19 Feb 2015 at 10:07

Standard.

They did not enter UK sovereign airspace, he added.

DailyGeek · 19 Feb 2015 at 10:08

It didn't say that when I linked it

Noxia · 19 Feb 2015 at 10:09

To be fair your link doesn't work, we'll let you off though

DailyGeek · 19 Feb 2015 at 10:17

Shared it from the App. My bad!

ubersonic · 19 Feb 2015 at 10:25

Works okay after you delete the gibberish before the www, like so: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31530840

CaptainRAVE · 19 Feb 2015 at 10:54

Some neat videos floating about. Those Typhoons are stunning.

Nutella33 · 19 Feb 2015 at 11:30

CaptainRAVE said:
Some neat videos floating about. Those Typhoons are stunning.

Cheers

Didn't realise the int officer still hasn't been returned by the russians.

The Funktopus · 19 Feb 2015 at 12:02

These "rebels" need to tread carefully, some of the flags they fly are dangerously close to the LGBT community's Rainbow flag. One misplaced stripe and Putler'll turn on them at the drop of his rather camp Stetson hat! :eek:

SarGara · 19 Feb 2015 at 12:36

Here we go again:

Russia's UN ambassador Vitaly Churkin has denounced Ukraine's call for the deployment of UN peacekeepers in eastern Ukraine as a destructive move.

The leadership of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic described the call for peacekeepers as a violation of the Minsk accords.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31530252

Maybe if the rebels werent expanding during a ceasefire this wouldnt have happened, not sure how this is Ukraines fault? Very rich of the DPR to point out others violations, "people who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones".

SPG · 19 Feb 2015 at 13:07

There is only 3 options. Western goverments will take option B,

Option A - Full out war

Option B - Increase spending on Defence, get more in NATO flex muscles, back room conflicts, cold war scenerio. Worthless sanctions that mean nothing as we still need GAS.

Option C - Invest in alternative energy sources that is not reliant on GAS, Oil so we are not held to ransom every winter.

Nutella33 · 19 Feb 2015 at 14:54

Option C - Invest in alternative energy sources that is not reliant on GAS, Oil so we are not held to ransom every winter.

western Europe isnt too bad, but as russia has for years given eastern Europe gas on a "ah no worries pay it back in a bit" scheme for political leverage they are stuck at the moment. baltics in particular. even energy dependence wouldn't counter his movements though.

I would put C at "do nothing, watch as he takes everything"

sum of Debaltseve cost according to ukraine forces is

2500 evacuated, 2000 vehicles taken with them.
82 missing, 90 captured, at least 22 confirmed killed (in the treaty weekend and collapse) with at least 112 wounded.

Battle for Shyrokyne on the road to mariupol is the new focus point

Rroff · 19 Feb 2015 at 14:58

Nutella33 said:
Battle for Shyrokyne on the road to mariupol is the new focus point

Gonna be a nasty one if fighting kicks off proper there - as mentioned a couple of days back or so forces flying the Donetsk republic flags were stacking up NE of there - fair few tanks and LOTS of BMPs and BTRs :S

EDIT: Wouldn't surprise me if Russia gets involved in pushing on Mariupol and a corridor through there given their own forces build up their side of the borders.

Nutella33 · 19 Feb 2015 at 15:22

Rroff said:
Gonna be a nasty one if fighting kicks off proper there - as mentioned a couple of days back or so forces flying the Donetsk republic flags were stacking up NE of there - fair few tanks and LOTS of BMPs and BTRs :S

EDIT: Wouldn't surprise me if Russia gets involved in pushing on Mariupol and a corridor through there given their own forces build up their side of the borders.

Yep, there were also movements on the crimean border as well.

unconfirmed reports they have sent Kilo Subs to Sevastopol
http://espreso.tv/news/2015/02/19/r...losyvshy_yoho_quotneprystupnoyu_forteceyuquot

Also shelling Avdiivka (north of donestk), whilst ukraine falls back and enforces Artemivsk (the city they left Debaltseve for)