Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

Harlequin · 19 Feb 2015 at 15:24

subs would have been seen on the straits - you cant really sneak anything through there

The Funktopus · 19 Feb 2015 at 15:34

They should have sent subs into landlocked Delbaltseve, they wouldn't have expected that!

What, the element of surprise is still a thing in warfare isn't it?

Nutella33 · 19 Feb 2015 at 15:41

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-N0xjECQAAFpr3.jpg:large

alleged UAV downed by ukraine.

ubersonic · 19 Feb 2015 at 15:43

The Funktopus said:
They should have sent subs into landlocked Delbaltseve, they wouldn't have expected that!

What, the element of surprise is still a thing in warfare isn't it?

Apparently Russia has acquired some new destroyers:

Nutella33 · 19 Feb 2015 at 15:56

mariupol will surely fall if they are backed up by a soul ripper or monkey lord

The Funktopus · 19 Feb 2015 at 16:36

ubersonic said:
Apparently Russia has acquired some new destroyers:

That's nothing new. Russian tourists have been coming back from Thailand with crabs for years!

Curio · 19 Feb 2015 at 20:07

Looks like the "ceasefire" is well and truly over now. Twitter is buzzing with reports of massive Ukrainian arty/rocket attack on Donetsk.

Harlequin · 19 Feb 2015 at 20:08

Funny - the twitter feeds im seeing are saying a massive Russian armoured advance - something like an entire armoured brigade pushing for breakout....

Curio · 19 Feb 2015 at 20:15

Harlequin said:
Funny - the twitter feeds im seeing are saying a massive Russian armoured advance - something like an entire armoured brigade pushing for breakout....

Well, it's Twitter. In reality they're probably all sat around together enjoying a nice picnic

Nutella33 · 19 Feb 2015 at 20:22

Curio said:
Looks like the "ceasefire" is well and truly over now. Twitter is buzzing with reports of massive Ukrainian arty/rocket attack on Donetsk.

OSCE is reporting its the rebels firing from donestk
RT is saying its the ukraines and due to it the rebels will "withdraw from minsk II" which is hilarious as they never applied.

According to him, the OSCE has documented numerous attacks in the area ATO for 18 February.

In particular, Luhansk sector observers recorded remote attacks in Raygorodok (twice).

February 18 morning in Bahmutivtsi fixed shelling and poobidi in Muratov.

Also, according to Botsyurkiva, shots were heard in Kramatorsk sector.

Speaking of Donetsk sector, he said that the explosions were heard in the area of Lower Krynka.

He also suggested that the artillery fired in Donetsk, because there was heard artillery shots

And the OCSE have still been blocked from Debaltseve

Wall street journal reporting more russian tank/equipment movement into ukraine.

ThestigGT999 · 20 Feb 2015 at 00:22

Russia supplying WMDs to the rebels

Russia starts sending gas to east Ukraine rebel zone

Nutella33 · 20 Feb 2015 at 01:23

shipped under an existing contract with the Ukrainian Naftogaz company. costing the ukraine 4million dollars a day.

Sergei Kupriyanov, a Gazprom spokesman, said the 12 million cm/d was in addition to the 30 million cm/d Ukraine was already receiving, taking total deliveries to 42 million cm/d.

He declined to comment further, saying the additional supplies were being shipped under an existing contract with Ukrainian state company Naftogaz.

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-starts-gas-supplies-rebel-held-east-ukraine-172228267--finance.html

The old gas supply being cut off due to the illegal fighting from the weekend...

Ukraine's pro-Russian separatists said Kiev had ceased gas supplies suddenly, without warning. They said they wanted access to Russian gas.

Naftogaz, Ukraine's national gas company, confirmed the cut-off, and said it was due to pipeline damage caused by fighting

ubersonic · 20 Feb 2015 at 08:26

ThestigGT999 said:
Russia supplying WMDs to the rebels

Russia starts sending gas to east Ukraine rebel zone

According to the link:

Russia's Gazprom started Thursday supplying gas directly to the rebel-controlled area in east Ukraine after pro-Moscow separatist leaders said Kiev had cut supplies

Does that make British Gas a Terrorist organisation?

Nutella33 · 20 Feb 2015 at 12:11

Human Rights Watch reports that 15 pro ukraine activists in crimea have "gone missing". 2 found dead so far.

and that they have shut down all methadone clinics in the region.

and a new convoy into ukraine

20 RU tanks, 10 self-propelled guns and 15 trucks crossed the UA-RU border. RU Soldiers go through #Izvaryne checkpoint

ThestigGT999 · 20 Feb 2015 at 12:44

ubersonic said:
According to the link:

Does that make British Gas a Terrorist organisation?

it was a joke

ubersonic · 20 Feb 2015 at 12:47

Nutella33 said:
15 pro ukraine activists in crimea have "gone missing". 2 found dead so far.

So only 13 missing then? or 15 missing + 2 dead?

ubersonic · 20 Feb 2015 at 13:08

Helpful as ever the BBC have written an article on "How to spot a Russian bomber"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-31537705

Sadly they have managed to confuse the long retired Tu-22 and current Tu-22M, two aircraft that although similar in name and role are actually completely different.

Werewolf · 20 Feb 2015 at 13:10

ubersonic said:
So only 13 missing then? or 15 missing + 2 dead?

I'd read it as 15 went missing.
Two have now turned up dead, and given the record for missing activists in Russia and Crimea I suspect the chances of the rest turning up dead (or simply never turning up again) are fairly high:/

Nutella33 · 20 Feb 2015 at 13:44

Werewolf said:
I'd read it as 15 went missing.
Two have now turned up dead, and given the record for missing activists in Russia and Crimea I suspect the chances of the rest turning up dead (or simply never turning up again) are fairly high:/

correct, sorry for the wording it was just a copy from HRW website.

Luhanske is looking to be the next "pocket" attempt.

And the Ukrainians have just signed a deal with poland and lithuania for a combined combat brigade.... which will be interesting if they start fighting, thats a pretty big escalation.

The President has signed the Law "On ratification of the Agreement between the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine, the Government of Lithuania and the Government of Poland regarding the establishment of joint military unit".

The Agreement provides for the establishment of joint Ukrainian-Polish-Lithuanian military unit and determines the general purpose, principles of activity, decision-making process, security guarantees and other organizational measures related to the activity of the brigade.

The brigade is created for the participation in the international operations that will be held under the mandate of the UN Security Council and the decisions of the authorized bodies of Lithuania, Poland and Ukraine. The Agreement remains open for accession of other states under joint invitation of the parties.

Harlequin · 20 Feb 2015 at 13:46

ubersonic said:
Helpful as ever the BBC have written an article on "How to spot a Russian bomber"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-31537705

Sadly they have managed to confuse the long retired Tu-22 and current Tu-22M, two aircraft that although similar in name and role are actually completely different.

well Blinders and Backfires do have a very similar job.....
I do love the way they compare the backfire to an F1-11 , although the backfire is twice a big!