Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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dowie said:
Not clear if all of the Azov guys are being evacuated/surrendering:
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www.reuters.com

Ukrainian force begins evacuating from last Mariupol stronghold

Troops holed up in the last Ukrainian stronghold in the besieged port of Mariupol began evacuating on Monday, appearing to cede control of the once prosperous city to Russia after months of bombardment.
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Ukraine's Deputy Defence Minister Hanna Malyar earlier told Ukrainian television: "Any information can harm the processes that are taking place ... Inasmuch as the process is under way, we can't say what's happening right now."
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"An agreement has been reached on the removal of the wounded," Russia's defence ministry said in a statement.
"A humanitarian corridor has been opened through which wounded Ukrainian servicemen are being taken to a medical facility in Novoazovsk."
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""In order to save lives, the entire Mariupol garrison is implementing the approved decision of the Supreme Military Command and hopes for the support of the Ukrainian people," the Azov Regiment said in a social media post."

Incredible really.
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
Oh look a sensible russian speaking the truth, wonder how long before something happens to him. Brave man.
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It's planned. Nothing will happen. It's full state sponsored media now. Journalists going missing and found missing their heads isn't uncommon in Russia. To speak out now unless planned is suicide.
 
Difficult to make out from the information available but video of what appears to be a Russian IFV passing another damaged IFV or tank just as it cooks off destroying both of them. (EDIT: Some are saying it is a minefield - makes more sense from the way they go up).

On another note seems Lviv is getting hit heavily tonight for some reason - probably Russia thinks something is being shipped in there - at least 2 waves of cruise missiles in the last couple of hours.
 
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Just watched video of soldiers showing 3 new-ish tanks blown up with panzerhaust-3's. Gotta have a stomach though when they show a mangled leg in the turret. Ukrainian's making jokes the entire time.

They seem to have British style gallows humour.
 
Interesting that several of the recent leaks seem to reveal Russian military leadership are under the impression China would be invading Taiwan by the end of the year - I can't really see it - not to say China can't do it now but not in a way which actually achieves anything for China.
 
terley said:

Russian satellite "KOSMOS-2555" with top secret purpose, launched on April 29 with "Z" emblem failed to achieve stable orbit and it's going to burn in atmosphere between on May 18 above Alaska​


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“One launch, that’s it?”
 
Rroff said:
Interesting that several of the recent leaks seem to reveal Russian military leadership are under the impression China would be invading Taiwan by the end of the year - I can't really see it - not to say China can't do it now but not in a way which actually achieves anything for China.
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Buy your tech now, IF the fabs get hit the world is doomed for 15 years till the germans build more........
 
Past 1hr:
*Russia-Backed Separatists: More Than 250 Ukrainian Servicemen From Azovstal Plant “Have Surrendered”, Including 51 Wounded — IFAX
*Russian Defence Ministry: We Hit U.S. and European Arms Shipments Near Ukraine’s Lviv Region — IFAX

*Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: No Big Diferenece if Finland, Sweden Join NATO As They Had Long Participated in NATO’s Military Drills
*Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: Talks With Kyiv Are Not Going On in Any Form — IFAX

*Ukraine President Zelenskiy: Held Talks With German Chancellor Scholz, Discussed Situation on Front Line and Increasing Sanctions on Russia
*Ukraine President Zelenskiy: Counts On Further German Assistance on Ukraine’s Path to Full Membership in the EU
*Ukraine Deputy PM Vereshchuk: Ukraine Is Working on Next Stages of Evacuation of Azovstal Defenders
 
Firestar_3x said:
They might be trying to swing public opinion towards mobilisation.
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After reading what he says I believe he is basically saying "we cant win this"

He recognises the damage it's doing to the country and the world is against them so the isolation that this brings isn't good.

He is also telling the people watching that Ukrain can mobilise and, with the lend lease program, arm 1 million people to defend their homeland.

This could very well get him poisoned, anyone watching that broadcast are thinking twice now.
 
bris said:
After reading what he says I believe he is basically saying "we cant win this"

He recognises the damage it's doing to the country and the world is against them so the isolation that this brings isn't good.

He is also telling the people watching that Ukrain can mobilise and, with the lend lease program, arm 1 million people to defend their homeland.

This could very well get him poisoned, anyone watching that broadcast are thinking twice now.
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Would like to see any replies to that on the program. Plant an opposing 'reasoned' argument that gives voice to some of the rumor's that have filtered through then systematically destroy it through rhetoric.
 
Past 1hr:
*U.S. Treasury’s Yellen Asks U.S. Partners to Increase Financial Support for Ukraine — Brussels Economic Forum Speech
*Yellen: Ukraine Faces Months Before Substantial Tax Collections Can Resume, Needs to Keep Govt Operating
*Yellen: Financial Support for Ukraine Announced so Far Will Not Be Sufficient for Short-Term Needs
*Yellen: U.S. Committed to Work With Europe to Meet Its Energy Needs, Help Break Dependence on Russian Energy
*Yellen: Ukraine Will Need to Turn Soon to Repairing Utilities, Critical Services
*Yellen: More Work Needed to Get Global Tax Reform Over Finish Line, Resolve Open Issues on ‘Pillar 1’ Taxing Rights
*Yellen: Coal, Fossil Fuel Usage Likely to See Uptick, Efforts to Transition to New Energy Sources Should Be Redoubled
*Yellen: U.S, Allies Should Cooperate on Sourcing Critical Materials, Reduce Reliance on China
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/yellen-calls-allies-step-up-funding-ukraine-2022-05-17/

*Lower House of Russian Parliament May Ban Exchange of “Nationalist Criminals” From Ukraine’s Azov Regiment for Russian Servicemen — Duma’s Telegram Channel
*Russian Foreign Minister: Russia Does Not Plan to Block YouTube — IFX
*Russian Foreign Minister: Russia Expels Two Finnish Diplomats

*OPEC+ Production Was 2.6 mln bpd Below Required Level in April — Report
*Russia Produced 1.28 mln bpd Below Required Level in April According to OPEC+ Secondary Sources — Report

*Ukraine Presidential Adviser Podolyak: Talks on Evacuating More Azovstal Defenders Are Very Difficult, but There Is Hope
*Ukraine Presidential Adviser Podolyak: Mariupol Holding Out for 82 Days Changed Course of War

*Kremlin: Russian Fertiliser Producers Are Trying to Fulfil Contracts, Sanctions Against Them Pose Risk to Global Food Security
*Kremlin: Putin Has Guaranteed That Those Who Surrendered at Ukraine’s Azovstal Will Be Treated According to International Standards
*Kremlin: It Would Be ‘Outright Theft’ for G7 and EU to Use Frozen Russian Reserves on Behalf of Ukraine
*Kremlin: Such a Move Would Be Illegal and Require an Appropriate Response
 
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DrToffnar said:
Would like to see any replies to that on the program. Plant an opposing 'reasoned' argument that gives voice to some of the rumor's that have filtered through then systematically destroy it through rhetoric.
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That's how it looks to me, too. She (Olga Skabeyeva) was speaking Russian, but I couldn't help the feeling I was hearing a Fiona Bruce or LBC presenter. She first interrupts with a "both sides" for "balance" when Mikhail goes off script (Ukraine lacking financing/arms is a big factor you can't leave out).

Then later on puts an absurd yes/no question to the guest (is a desire to die for one's country professionalism) to derail the talk. I've seen it time and time again. Journalists everywhere on these panel shows use the same tactics regardless of language, to the point where I don't watch/listen to them.

So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he's there as controlled opposition (not literally a puppet, but chosen because they can "control" the response to him). He raises his profile amongst anti-war guys, pro-war guys feel better watching him get humiliated and, deliberately or accidentally, he helps steer the conversation away from casualties, and towards isolation.

We'd need to see the rest of it, but I'd expect she'd try to bog him down in semantics. Maybe pop off another "innocent" yes/no question, so the headlines tomorrow discuss it rather than challenge Mikhail's points. It's funny, because it looks so organic, till you're absolutely against what they're peddling, i.e. invasion.
 
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