Trouble is a few fold alas..
1. They'll need lots of training to use em properly
2. They'll need lots of ammo to use em for longer than about an hour
3. They'll need spares and people who know how to fix them
4. They'll need a whole load of logistics to stop them becoming pillboxes.
Abrams are notoriously thirsty. It's only really the US with the logistics who are able to operate them and make best use of them.
None of those issues would stop Ukraine from using them if they thought they could make a material difference on the battlefield over existing tank systems. It's quite remarkable how quickly Ukrainians have adapted to modern western weapon systems and use them alongside existing soviet era tech.
To be honest I doubt the crews need much training, they probably have more combat experience than NATO operators, they just need some training on how to operate the tank which shouldn't take long, the only real issue is repair and maintenance which like you say takes a long timeYou could probably train an Abrams crew to an acceptable standard in 3 months. Training the folks to maintain and repair them is going to take way longer.
Does Putin really risk putting russia at danger just because he's losing ukraine? I don't see it.
Trouble is a few fold alas..
1. They'll need lots of training to use em properly
2. They'll need lots of ammo to use em for longer than about an hour
3. They'll need spares and people who know how to fix them
4. They'll need a whole load of logistics to stop them becoming pillboxes.
Abrams are notoriously thirsty. It's only really the US with the logistics who are able to operate them and make best use of them.
Exactly. If the Ukrainians deployed M1s as the Yanks do, they’ll need a whole load of support elements or it’ll be a very short fight.
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U.S. Army Armor Company (Current)
The layout of the U.S. Army's M1A2 Abrams-equipped tank companies.www.battleorder.org
You could probably train an Abrams crew to an acceptable standard in 3 months. Training the folks to maintain and repair them is going to take way longer.
How do you think the use the US arms they have now?
Do you think the HIMARS rockets are sent by dhl?
And the spares sent by royail mail?
Who do you think trained the Ukraines?
The A1 tanks are on the table as of 2 weeks ago.
Sure she doesn’t want UK citizenship and the PM job?Razz
I don't know how dropping nukes helps Putin win. Would Ukraine fold if he did that or just get even angrier and determined to win? I think the latter, Russian atrocities so far have bolstered Ukrainian resolve rather than breaking them. Meanwhile, dropping a nuke would massively increase pressure on Western countries to give even more support to Ukraine, even if they don't respond militarily. They'd also likely lose what little support they have outside Russia as well, including from China and India.
But I think military involvement by Western powers would be inevitable. Nukes cannot be allowed to become weapons that are actually used in conflict.
And I thought I couldn't fall in love with her anymoreRazz
Do nuclear weapons actually achieve anything for Putin? The Ukrainian troops are so spaced out that it would take many nukes to remove the troops. So a single nuke isn't achieving anything and they'd need to bomb it into the stone age. And then what use is the land? I suppose it still has the gas and oil but no one with disposable income is paying him for it. He also has the threat of all his forces being eliminated via NATO. So he wouldn't get to annexe the Ukrainian land if that scenario occured. He also risks world nuclear war. Does launching nuclear weapons make Putin more likely to be deposed in Russia? These are all calculations Putin will be making.
i'd certainly vote for her, don't even care about her policiesSure she doesn’t want UK citizenship and the PM job?
oi, that's the potential future mrs kwango (just gotta get rid of the current one firstAnd I thought I couldn't fall in love with her anymore
Sure she doesn’t want UK citizenship and the PM job?
Because he's up against a wall and cornered dogs tend to lash out?
Western powers won't get involved militarily Biden is anti-interventionist he doesn't want any more foreign wars involving american troops with no end game in sight. He's said he'll defend every inch of NATO soil as a warning to the russians but that doesn't mean he'll get involved in Ukraine directly. More likely is sanctions turned up to the nines total ostracism an embargo on any trade with russia you trade with russia we won't have anything to do with you much like they've done with Iran
But I think the degree to which Putin is cornered is overplayed; his grip on Russia remains immensely strong,
Well if he and his family end up at the bottom of a staircase, below an open window and shot multiple times then we know.It does appear so; the question is why? I cannot but help feel that there is a whiff of Tsar Nicholas in the air.
Western powers won't get involved militarily Biden is anti-interventionist he doesn't want any more foreign wars involving american troops with no end game in sight...