Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Just British trying pretend they have a "war effort" without realising their time has come and gone in the world.

Any sensible person would want to avoid outright war. Tbh half the brain dead people here would have supported Russia if the media had spun it another way.
Are you implying the media have spun Russia's genocide negatively?
 
Sorry what rights did I give up that I don't have now?

Actually don't answer that, this isn't the thread and I've no patience for this nonsense.
Did I say you no longer had rights? I do however remember the crushing restrictions on people's freedom in the UK and across Europe. People proud to let their families die in hospital because the government told them so etc. People being arrested for being in their own car.
 
I don't think that truck could have caused so much damage. So I am going with charges placed on the supports of the bridge.

But this brings another question with it. If Ukraine special forces were able to place charges then why only on one side of the bridge? Why not take down both sides and also the train side?

That leads me to believe the attack was symbolic and to cause panic in Russians. There are genuine reasons for keeping the bridge up, including allowing Russia to retreat without fighting every man to the death, ease of monitoring supplies entering Crimea and usefulness after the war. But we already see that there has been panic with Russian civilians wanting to leave Crimea. It would have sent a shock wave through the Russian leadership and the news will spread back in Russia among civilians that the bridge which was supposedly so well protected, could be hit.
 
I don't think that truck could have caused so much damage. So I am going with charges placed on the supports of the bridge.

But this brings another question with it. If Ukraine special forces were able to place charges then why only on one side of the bridge? Why not take down both sides and also the train side?

That leads me to believe the attack was symbolic and to cause panic in Russians. There are genuine reasons for keeping the bridge up, including allowing Russia to retreat without fighting every man to the death, ease of monitoring supplies entering Crimea and usefulness after the war. But we already see that there has been panic with Russian civilians wanting to leave Crimea. It would have sent a shock wave through the Russian leadership and the news will spread back in Russia among civilians that the bridge which was supposedly so well protected, could be hit.

Yeah leaving a lane open makes perfect sense. Though you'd of thought they would have liked to take down the rail bridge as well. Maybe it was one or the other due to amount of explosives they could carry.
 
Since the truck came from the Russian side I'm wondering if it was one of the factions vying for control over the Kremlin and especially pertinent would be if there were actually rigid checkpoints for either side then whoever manned them is immediately the suspect though bribery or incompetence is so likely that it could be anyone.

May even be Dagestani/Chechen rebels looking to take revenge directly on Putin's ego.
 
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Are you implying the media have spun Russia's genocide negatively?

Why you spinning it? I'm not pro Russian, I'm merely commenting that half the idiots here would support whatever the media said, frothing with some catchy phrases.

I sincerely do not want war, and find the blinding hypocrisy of ignoring terrible conflicts in the world a bit sickening.
 
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Just British trying pretend they have a "war effort" without realising their time has come and gone in the world.

Any sensible person would want to avoid outright war. Tbh half the brain dead people here would have supported Russia if the media had spun it another way.
War is because the avoidance didn't work.

In this case, Ukraine did nothing to warrant even being attacked. They have never been an aggressor against Russia.
 
Why you spinning it? I'm not pro Russian, I'm merely commenting that half the idiots here would support whatever the media said, frothing with some catchy phrases.

I sincerely do not want war, and find the blinding hypocrisy of ignoring terrible conflicts in the world a bit sickening.

So we mock America for being 'world police' , but then we want 'world police' ?
 
I don't think that truck could have caused so much damage.
I suspect the trick is to make those sections "jump" and let gravity find the weak points in construction. They may also have just got lucky, because it seems likely to me (anyway) that the plan was to detonate that fuel train -- presumably running to a predictable schedule -- in a more spectacular fashion than actually happened.

I'm inclined to think it was a truck bomb because of the nature of the initial explosion. But at this stage we're all just having fun with speculation.

As for the quick re-opening others are talking about... this is Russians running things; in the UK there'd be a 6 month H&S assessment, competitive tendering for bollard deployment, and wrangling over who'd pay out if more bits fall down and kill people. They just jump up and down on it a few times and nod.
 
Since the bridge was built in a speedy 2 year period mostly for political reasons I can easily imagine it is riddled with flaws that weren't of immediate concern but you know a multi-tonne bomb might make it apparent.

As such it's now in much worse state as Ukraine may now suspect that lesser attacks may succeed especially with respect to that pillar holding up the railway bridge whose concrete may now be brittle and it's rebar weakened.
 
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I suspect the trick is to make those sections "jump" and let gravity find the weak points in construction. They may also have just got lucky, because it seems likely to me (anyway) that the plan was to detonate that fuel train -- presumably running to a predictable schedule -- in a more spectacular fashion than actually happened.

I'm inclined to think it was a truck bomb because of the nature of the initial explosion. But at this stage we're all just having fun with speculation.

As for the quick re-opening others are talking about... this is Russians running things; in the UK there'd be a 6 month H&S assessment, competitive tendering for bollard deployment, and wrangling over who'd pay out if more bits fall down and kill people. They just jump up and down on it a few times and nod.

Yes, timed with the train, most likely fractions within Putin's government angry at Putin and the war.

Uprising with the RU government, wonder how long Putin has left now. This is a great indicator of the split in his government.
 
I'm not convinced that lorry was responsible for this no matter what Russia says. An explosion from under the bridge would likely cause that kind of damage. How did a lorry full of explosives get past their checks? You think they are scanning every lorry that crosses.

It blatantly wasn't the lorry at this point, Russia is just throwing out explanations like it was the train, it was a truck etc.

A boat makes way more sense, the train line part is more valuable to disrupt supplies but notice how it's higher above the water - (unless there was a massive coincidence/luck here with the train) this attack was genius, they managed to cause a big problem for the railway portion of the bridge by timing it right to blow up the boat just as the train is passing, the road bridge is lower/closer to the water at that point, an explosion under that portion of the road bridge has likely lifted a section up a bit with the force of the blast then when it falls back it breaks.
 
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