Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Russia doesn't want to take ukraine, people living in east ukraine vote to be part of Russia. So no need to draw a line since Russia is not interested in territorial expansion.

It was a legitimate democratic referendum.

They didn't try, it was a trick in order to divert the best ukrainian forces from the south east. and it worked!

Regardless of whether you are trolling for LOLs or are a Russian shill spreading disinformation, you won't get far posting such blatant nonsense. Try dialling it back by at least 50% so there is at least a semblance of some balance and you don't appear to be completely out of touch with reality.
 
It was a legitimate democratic referendum.


UN says no it wasnt.
 
It could also be argued its war and big guns/things are going to get thrown at you, So do not be surprised when your greenhouse with your oversized pumpkins has been flattened due to a missile. Your enemy cares not.

I am not fully following your reply if I am honest...but yes, the enemy cares not.

I was more just saying I was wondering if Russia was going to do a big volley and then pause to let Ukraine 'think about their actions' or whether it would be continuous from now on. Time will tell. :(
 
The Dreseden fire bombings are one of a number of exceptions to that rule. Hitler was a monster, but we have a tainted history as well.
In relation to the Ukraine conflict from what information is available I have not seen any evidence of Ukraine carrying out indiscrimate attacks.
Well - the UK gassed the Kurds too before that. We have since signed up against chemical and biological weapons.
 
I am not fully following your reply if I am honest...but yes, the enemy cares not.

I was more just saying I was wondering if Russia was going to do a big volley and then pause to let Ukraine 'think about their actions' or whether it would be continuous from now on. Time will tell. :(

Probably not capable of this being continuous, they haven't got an endless supply of missiles
 
Well - the UK gassed the Kurds too before that. We have since signed up against chemical and biological weapons.

That's too vague and lacking context.

Firstly it's disputed and has little evidence to back the claim it was actually used, secondly, the only allegation I'm aware of re: that is the UK was considering using tear gas. Something plenty of Western police forces use in riot control situations today.

Essentially it's seems like some BS thing that often pops up on Instagram or Twitter, usually associated with criticism of Winston Churchill.
 
The kurdish chemical attacks years ago seem
That's too vague and lacking context.

Firstly it's disputed and has little evidence to back the claim it was actually used, secondly, the only allegation I'm aware of re: that is the UK was considering using tear gas. Something plenty of Western police forces use in riot control situations today.

Essentially it's seems like some BS thing that often pops up on Instagram or Twitter, usually associated with criticism of Winston Churchill.
youre right (if the wiki is correct): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_British_use_of_chemical_weapons_in_Mesopotamia_in_1920
 
Its war, when your on the back foot surely you just do what's needed.

There is no such thing as a good / clean war, as has been shown over and over again on both sides of any argument.

When put in a life and death situation, or having loved ones taken from you will soon turn the nicest of folks to the darkest thoughts possible.

Humans are apex predators and when pushed will show this, its why we are the dominate species on the planet, not cause we cuddle up to all living things :D
 
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I think that i'm of the generation least likely to trust any Russian, Russian proclamation or Russian act as genuine, honourable or true. I was born in 1952 so have had reds under the beds thrown at me all my life.
Putin though has proved all these casual assumptions, some would say racism's as being truisms and any slight easing since Uncle Joe, Kruschev, Andropov etc., have been well and truly rescinded. I trust Russia as far as I could throw that fat new leader of the Russian armies, which is zero distance.
 
Fair point about Dresden.
While the targeting of civilian cities, especially with incenderies is abhorrent, the context of the decision and the attack of Dresden must be considered before comparing our government and command to Hitler.

The lose of 25,000 lives is terrible but temper it with the fact many in that city were happy to support the Nazi party when they rounded up Jewish citizens for a terrible fate before thinking so many were truly innocent. Not that I would wish that death on anyone and never upon children.

Churchill made many choices I take issue with, especially those affecting allied civilians, some were made to shorten the war at the cost of the enemy lives, knowing the damage they had already inflicted upon us (Coventry et al.).
 
So the Russians claim that an attack on a legitimate military target is 'terrorism'. Would be interested in hearing what they describe lobbing 'precision' cruise missiles into civilian buildings as then?

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In the "who has committed more acts of terror" game Russia is definitely winning.

It's a war (even if Russia refuses to call it one) so I expect stuff to get blown up, and some unavoidable collateral damage, but so far at least, Ukraine seems to be trying to minimise civilian casualties, even with the bridge explosion it was done at a time when the bridge wasn't busy.

Russia on the other hand appears to just be firing missiles vaguely at cities, doing as much damage as possible without caring about the targets they hit.
 
I think these missiles are going to have the opposite impact to the ones Russian wants, at least in terms of optics if not damage.

They appear to just be a petty revenge tactic that won't do anything to get Ukraine to quit, if anything it will make the front line troops fight harder.
 
Sanction on Belarus, I heard they are about to join forces with Russia.

Joint patrols near border apparently, Lukashenko looks like he doesn't want to get dragged into the war and there are question marks about just how loyal his army is they may not fight against ukrainians or maybe he fears if mobilised they'll turn on him instead
 
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