You can't fool me, mate. That's a duck.
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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You can't fool me, mate. That's a duck.
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The fact they're using S-300 missiles (Anti-Air Missiles) as ground attack weapons says a lot about the state of their stocks
It could also be argued its war and big guns/things are going to get thrown at you, So do not be surprised when your greenhouse with your oversized pumpkins has been flattened due to a missile. Your enemy cares not.
And they said COD was made up!
I guess it's always a possibility. But which is the following is more likely:
Option 1: Russia sent their forces to surround the capital city and capture/replace the resident government, which was one of their stated aims. But they were forced back, retreated in disarray and left a lot of their armour and equipment while retreating.
Option 2: Russia tried to trick Ukraine by pretending to want to capture and replace the government, then as planned leave the government in place and withdraw to the east, again pretending to withdraw in disarray, while leaving a lot of useful armour and equipment.
I think I'll go with option 1.
Yet another echo of Hitler; waging a war of terror with long distance rockets hitting civilians.Just saw the map to show where Russia hit across Ukraine, wow.
Good that quite a lot were intercepted but looks like they need more anti-air systems to help...I guess Russia will keep doing this now.
While not with Rockets the allies did exactly the same with mass bombings - no party was innocent in that war in that regard.
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I appreciate neither side were innocent, but there is a slight difference. The allies bombed strategic sites and caused a massive number of civilian casualties, just as the Germans did too. But what I'm referring to is that Germany simply pointed V1 and V2 rockets at populations, deliberately targeting civilians.
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That was a case of 'You reap what you sow'
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And in actual fact, our government sacrificed Croydon in secret, using double agents to convince Germany the V1 rockets were hitting targets "correctly". 141 rockets eventually ended up hitting Croydon, destroying 1500 homes and killing 200 people over 81 days.
That was a genuine decision taken by our leaders, to sacrifice the few for the many.
It certainly wasn't that. Perhaps if there was a genuinely free referendum then those areas may choose to become part of Russia. But we simply can't tell from the sham referendums held.
If Russia really believed they would win the referendums then they could easily have used it as their off ramp in a peace deal; Russia agrees to withdraw all troops. Once withdrawn then proper referendums on each area are held under the supervision of the United Nations (or any other mutually agreeable nation), with both sides agreeing to abide by the results. Surely this would be the obvious peace deal?
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Well it was Croydon so it's understandable.
The Dreseden fire bombings are one of a number of exceptions to that rule. Hitler was a monster, but we have a tainted history as well.
In relation to the Ukraine conflict from what information is available I have not seen any evidence of Ukraine carrying out indiscrimate attacks.
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Neither side was capable of precission bombing and I don't think the allies thought it would cause a surrender - Britain didn't surrender in the blitz - why would Germany be different.
As I've said before, targeting civilians is pointless; it won't make a country surrender and just relects badly on the attacker. Its a wasted effort.
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Too late for any such ideas, this is what Musk said, but a lot of people have been killed and driven out of their homes.
I suspect you have very little choice other than to attempt to peddle this nonsense. I hope you and your family are safe, and when Russia moves past this horrible period in it's history, you can find something more productive with your time.
Oh I agree it's too late now. But my point was at the very start, if Putin really believed they would vote to join Russia in a genuinely free election, then it would have been an option. He didn't raise it as an option back then because he knew they would not vote to leave Ukraine.
It's too late now though. Too much water over the Crimea bridge for that to happen.
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