Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Rroff said:
On a kind of related note - not sure if it is just how poor the manufacturing quality is of Russian tanks but always puzzled me a bit seeing some of the tank destruction early in the war - some of the Russian tanks came apart like they'd been hit by 500kg of explosives (not just their internal ammo detonating) but the surrounding environment was still relatively intact which wouldn't happen with a 500kg warhead detonating - those things were literally just scraps of metal spread over a wide area.
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An armoured vehicle behaves a bit like a balloon when it is hit, the internal explosions cause a massive over preasure as the gasses try to get out as quickly as possible. In tanks this often results in the familiar high flying turret, but it might find it easier to break the welds in the hull and just blow the hull apart, it doesn't have to be a huge bomb to do this - it is just localized very high preasure.
 
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I_M_Weasel said:
An armoured vehicle behaves a bit like a balloon when it is hit, the internal explosions cause a massive over preasure as the gasses try to get out as quickly as possible. In tanks this often results in the familiar high flying turret, but it might find it easier to break the welds in the hull and just blow the hull apart, it doesn't have to be a huge bomb to do this - it is just localized very high preasure.
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The Russian auto loading tanks are well known for impersonating a Roman candle as the propellant magazine cooks off. Western tanks have blow out panels that vent such explosions outside of the turret.
 
Rroff said:
There have been instances of S-300 complexes used for ground to ground - but several craters the media or others have ascribed to S-300 hits no ifs or buts would have to have been a minimum of 500kg warheads and AFAIK the S-300 doesn't have the capability.

On a kind of related note - not sure if it is just how poor the manufacturing quality is of Russian tanks but always puzzled me a bit seeing some of the tank destruction early in the war - some of the Russian tanks came apart like they'd been hit by 500kg of explosives (not just their internal ammo detonating) but the surrounding environment was still relatively intact which wouldn't happen with a 500kg warhead detonating - those things were literally just scraps of metal spread over a wide area.
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Their main gun rounds are 2 part - shell and separate propellant charge to allow the use of auto loaders. Problem is that the magazines for both are located low in the hill and armoured to protect against AP/HEAT shell impacts when fighting against other MBTs.

The white hot spray of molten metal from a Javelin/NLAW hit on the roof of the turret sets the propellant charges off and the turret goes airborne.
 
ChrisLX200 said:
Still infinitely better than the alternative.
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I agree but you have to wonder how on earth it got to the stage where Biden is infinitely better than the only other current realistic alternative.

If someone had told me 10 years ago that today, we would be on the verge of a nuclear exchange with Russia and then went on to show me the recent videos of Biden as the leader of the free modern world, I would think they had taken leave of their senses.

Great times.
 
steve_c said:
I agree but you have to wonder how on earth it got to the stage where Biden is infinitely better than the only other current realistic alternative.

If someone had told me 10 years ago that today, we would be on the verge of a nuclear exchange with Russia and then went on to show me the recent videos of Biden as the leader of the free modern world, I would think they had taken leave of their senses.

Great times.
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Biden is keeping Obamacare alive and life saving drugs like insulin at low prices as well as adding ten million jobs and forgiving student debt.

Trump played golf a lot of golf in his own clubs that cost the taxpayer a mouth watering 155 million dollars.

He also charged the secret service over 1100 dollars per night per room despite the man walking in off the street would only need to pay 220 dollars.

Biden is going senile, its clear to see but infinitely better than trump is an understatement.

If GOP win the midterms all aid to Ukraine is gone, better hope its all over before then but not much chance of that.

Trump dances to Putins fiddle.
 
steve_c said:
I agree but you have to wonder how on earth it got to the stage where Biden is infinitely better than the only other current realistic alternative.

If someone had told me 10 years ago that today, we would be on the verge of a nuclear exchange with Russia and then went on to show me the recent videos of Biden as the leader of the free modern world, I would think they had taken leave of their senses.

Great times.
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Perhaps we could lend Mrs. Truss to the White House until such a time as President Biden's faculties return? ;)
 
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