Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Scougar said:
So they dare not attack the foreign ships... But the tugboats (Ukrainian no doubt) are "fair game".

Got to love the hypocrisy of the Russians. They wouldn't know morals if it slapped them in the face. It's like Gangster levels.
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Looking at the Russian navy, a tugboat is the most valuable and important surface vessel!!!
 
Richie said:
Was a quick mention on Sky News this morning suggesting public support for UK spending support may be starting to wane due to the CoL crisis.

I'll admit, I thought this may happen at some point but it took a little longer than I thought.
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The thing is, even if our support stopped today it's very very unlikely to make things cheaper in the short/medium term. I.e Cost of living is with us for years, rather than snapping back to low rates. cheap fuel and rainbows as soon as we go "no more sanctions for you mr putin" . That being the case, we may as well keep support up as it's right thing to do.
 
nsmalley said:
The thing is, even if our support stopped today it's very very unlikely to make things cheaper in the short/medium term. I.e Cost of living is with us for years, rather than snapping back to low rates. cheap fuel and rainbows as soon as we go "no more sanctions for you mr putin" . That being the case, we may as well keep support up as it's right thing to do.
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You say "even if" like there is a choice. Cost of living was on the cusp in anycase.

The right thing to do is support the situation. But I don't think for a moment there is any choice that you or me can make.
 
cu3ed said:
lol..the same ones the ran away the moment we said we where leaving?...those elite soldiers?
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No, these are the very highly trained (by US SF and SOF) Afghan Special Forces troops, the ones who fought to the end despite being left behind, cut-off and unsupported, by the rest of the Afghan Army who were the ones that did drop their weapons and flee. These are the troops that the US SF/SOF were desperately trying to get evacuated and, because of US Government failures during the exacuation, they got left behind and so became mercenaries for hire instead, selling their training and experience to the highest bidders.

It's a tale as old as time - US trains locals, US support at home waivers, US Government pulls out and ditches trained locals, trained locals now hate US or become Mercs - rinse and repeat from the 50's onwards.
 
Scougar said:
So they dare not attack the foreign ships... But the tugboats (Ukrainian no doubt) are "fair game".

Got to love the hypocrisy of the Russians. They wouldn't know morals if it slapped them in the face. It's like Gangster levels.
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Armed forces stopping some Panama registered ship in International waters for an ‘inspection’.
How do you think navies operate if they don’t do this?
 
ianh said:
No, these are the very highly trained (by US SF and SOF) Afghan Special Forces troops, the ones who fought to the end despite being left behind, cut-off and unsupported, by the rest of the Afghan Army who were the ones that did drop their weapons and flee. These are the troops that the US SF/SOF were desperately trying to get evacuated and, because of US Government failures during the exacuation, they got left behind and so became mercenaries for hire instead, selling their training and experience to the highest bidders.

It's a tale as old as time - US trains locals, US support at home waivers, US Government pulls out and ditches trained locals, trained locals now hate US or become Mercs - rinse and repeat from the 50's onwards.
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Ah well chance to clear up the mistake I guess.
 
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