Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Is it just me that dislikes this terminology of orc's?

I really dislike it. Dehumanisation of anyone is a bad idea. Usually leads to all sorts of horrible actions. I'm fine describing Russian institutions or their government in the strongest possible terms, but plenty of those kids on the front line don't want to be there. Judge each individual on their own actions\circumstances.
 
No, I think it's distasteful.

Many Russians have been conscripted and lied to. Most of them don't deserve to die.

While on principle i don't disagree with you. This is war and Russia chucked principles out of the window. The Russian people can always rise up and overthrow their leaders, but they choose to either partake or turn there backs if it's nothing to do with them.

700,000 fighting age men are fleeing, 300,000 called up and likely to die. If they're going to die, 300,000 is more than enough for a revolution and most of them would probably survive in otherwise they wouldn't have of if sent to the front line
 
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Tell that the thousands dead in Mariupol or what happened in Bucha or 100 other towns.

The Russians are only complaining about lack of equipment in order for them to carry out killing Ukrainians.

If they were really against things, Russia would be Iran right now or they could frag their commanding officer and surrender asap.

Otherwise they are complicit and they deserve the 189,000 tungsten pellets only a HIMAR's rocket can provide.
 
You mean like in Iran, where the US and UK supported dictator was democratically voted out - so said same powers engineered a coup to put `their man` back in power.... only for him to be thrown out again in 1979....

Yeap just like that. Our (and US) past interference in the internal workings of democratic countries is a stain on our foreign policies ideals.

Is it just me that dislikes this terminology of orc's?

I dislike it too, but only because it feels like slogan that a child needs to use to remind them who the bad guys in a film are, where as adults don't need slogans to remind them who the bad guys are.
 
I dislike it too, but only because it feels like slogan that a child needs to use to remind them who the bad guys in a film are, where as adults don't need slogans to remind them who the bad guys are.

One of the problems I have with it is it risks sowing long standing divisions which persist long after the original problem has gone even.
 
Is it just me that dislikes this terminology of orc's?

No, it makes me uncomfortable too.

It's one thing when I hear it from Ukrainians, but when people outside the country are using it I find it rather less comfortable. While those Russians raping, looting, torturing, and murdering across the country are one thing; most Russians in Ukraine are simply ordinary people in a hellish place. I still think the death of any Russian soldier in Ukraine is to be celebrated (although surrender is better) because ultimately that's the only way wars are won - killing the enemy - and there should be no doubt in anyone's mind about who has the moral high ground in this war; but that celebration should be tinged with sadness, these are people dying not nameless statistics or monsters.
 
Somehow I don't think Ukraine and Russia are going to kiss and make up after this.

They will be forever enemies for generations to come.

Things like this just ensure that kind of outcome - though I was thinking in a broader context* - I'm not sure Ukraine and Russia can be reconciled any time soon either.

* For instance Russians who've left Russia but might still shape the thinking (albeit that is slow going) back home with relatives, etc.
 
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While on principle i don't disagree with you. This is war and Russia chucked principles out of the window. The Russian people can always rise up and overthrow their leaders, but they choose to either partake or turn there backs if it's nothing to do with them.

700,000 fighting age men are fleeing, 300,000 called up and likely to die. If they're going to die, 300,000 is more than enough for a revolution and most of them would probably survive in otherwise they wouldn't have of if sent to the front line
This.. While it's a terrible tragedy for those left behind, at what point does silence/inaction become complicity and enabling it to continue?
 
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Liar. The Azov Battalion wasn't even formed until the Russia had annexed Crimea and the Russian invasion of the Donbas had begun. This is basic look up dates and see which happened first stuff, so why do you expect people to fall for your pack of lies?

11th November 2013: Euromaidan protests begin
February 2014: Ultra-corrupt pro-Russian leader Yanukovich is removed by vote of Parliament, and new elections arranged.
18th March 2014: Russia annexes Crimea after a sham referendum.
April 2014: unofficial Russia militia capture government buildings in Donetsk and Luhansk.
May 2014: The Azov Battalion is formed to fight against the Russians.

Notice how May comes later in the year than March and April. Do I also need to explain the concept of linear time?
Immediately after the coup (that was set up by nato) all the nazis groups in ukraine (backed by nato) start attacking the Russian populations, also the new ukrainian government introduced new laws to make the lives of Russian populations miserable.

The war became an actual war on 14/04/14 by Ukrainian nazi regime, and in may the azov nazis became officially(with the approval of the government), they already fighting the Russians before that.

Also the referendum in Crimea was a 100% legit, after all it is a common knowledge that the overwhelming majority(96%+) of the population that was living in Crimea was Russians.

It is clear that hostilities against Russian populations started in February 2014 by the new nazi-corrupt-nato ukrainian government. So it is only logical that the Russian populations after that, wanted to move to Russia via referendum.
 
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