Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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I am guessing North Korea have quite a large stockpile...if it means draining their resources as well, so be it.

Very sad though to hear they are helping. :(
 
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- Information Indicates North Korea Covertly Supplying Russia War in Ukraine With Significant Number of Artillery Shells

Are they supplying spare artillary barrels along with that as I'm pretty sure at this point the Russian ones are ******.
 
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It would be a shame if they got forwarded to the Ukrainians.

Sorry state of affairs when your going cap in hand to North Korea, especially for atrially shells you would think Russia had a virtually unlimited stock of those or they would at the very least be able to make them.

Bit of a problem when you've mobilised the man power who make them... :s I've not seen evidence of a particular shortage of run of the mill artillery though - the Kharkiv offensive turned up significant stockpiles which Russia simply couldn't shift in time when the area was at risk of being retaken by Ukraine - the bigger problem seemed to be the logistics of getting them where they needed to be and I can't see that being any different with supplies coming from North Korea.

Though as talked about earlier in this thread there seems to be a curious shortage of 115mm ammo for the T-62s - which is fairly distinctive looking/packaged - I've been keeping half an eye out for it since it was talked about and they don't seem to have stock of it in any of the caches, etc. I've seen and you rarely see piles of spent shells of it like you do with the T-72s, etc.

EDIT: NK does hold significant stockpiles of 115mm though and can apparently make it - combined with Russia attempting to put up to 800 T-62s back into service - might be why NK is shifting "artillery" shells.

EDIT2: Some 115mm from Kherson:

 
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Bit of a problem when you've mobilised the man power who make them... :s I've not seen evidence of a particular shortage of run of the mill artillery though - the Kharkiv offensive turned up significant stockpiles which Russia simply couldn't shift in time when the area was at risk of being retaken by Ukraine - the bigger problem seemed to be the logistics of getting them where they needed to be and I can't see that being any different with supplies coming from North Korea.

Though as talked about earlier in this thread there seems to be a curious shortage of 115mm ammo for the T-62s - which is fairly distinctive looking/packaged - I've been keeping half an eye out for it since it was talked about and they don't seem to have stock of it in any of the caches, etc. I've seen and you rarely see piles of spent shells of it like you do with the T-72s, etc.

Ukraine is using T64 - which shares 125mm ammo with the T72 and T80. Not so much the T62 (as you say) - it uses older 115mm ammo. I wonder if any old Chieftans could make their way to Ukraine ;)
 
They did in the first weeks - but ultimately life seems to be cheap for those types - they don't really care how many die for Putin's vision.
TBH I doubt the Russian population even know how many are dead.

They will not be getting the facts from state TV so they are probably blissfully unaware of whats really going on.
 
It would be a shame if they got forwarded to the Ukrainians.

Sorry state of affairs when your going cap in hand to North Korea, especially for atrially shells you would think Russia had a virtually unlimited stock of those or they would at the very least be able to make them.
HIMARS was hitting the Russiam ammo dumps on a daily basis. Haven't seen a good ammo dump fireworks show for a while now. They're hitting the artillery instead now.
 
Ukraine is using T64 - which shares 125mm ammo with the T72 and T80. Not so much the T62 (as you say) - it uses older 115mm ammo. I wonder if any old Chieftans could make their way to Ukraine ;)

Chieftan seems decidedly non-trivial to maintain from what little I know about them. A few in private hands but not much use as a tank with the breach welded or cut.
 
Ukraine is using T64 - which shares 125mm ammo with the T72 and T80. Not so much the T62 (as you say) - it uses older 115mm ammo. I wonder if any old Chieftans could make their way to Ukraine ;)

I‘ve known a couple of RTR/REME chaps over the years and they thought all their Christmases came at once when Challenger replaced the Chieftain, the later being an good chassis and gun, but cursed with a horrifically unreliable engine and gearbox. A Chieftain platoon could be spotted from miles away just by the cloud of exhaust fumes.
 
HIMARS was hitting the Russiam ammo dumps on a daily basis. Haven't seen a good ammo dump fireworks show for a while now. They're hitting the artillery instead now.
HIMARS did a gret job of breaking the Russian tactic of pounding every town into oblivion, they're keeping their ammo dumps further away now and they don't have the logistics to support the distance.
 
Wonder if there's any appetite for a TOG3 that is twice as long as the TOG2? It could serve a secondary purpose of being an emergency bridge.

In seriousness though I think the rationale for not giving Ukraine ballistic missiles has been made rather pointless with Iran selling/trading Russia theirs and so we should start supplying them with comparable missiles as it's a justified escalation which can be fully blamed on Iran.
 
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Wonder if there's any appetite for a TOG3 that is twice as long as the TOG2? It could serve a secondary purpose of being an emergency bridge.

In seriousness though I think the rationale for not giving Ukraine ballistic missiles has been made rather pointless with Iran selling/trading Russia theirs and so we should start supplying them with comparable missiles as it's a justified escalation which can be fully blamed on Iran.

A interesting idea, it's not required at this current stage but most certainly on the cards. They need to pop Belarus a few for sure.
 
You understand what obscure means?
Yes, sure. We have this illegal military cargo, hundreds, probably thousands of tons (to make a difference)
Instead of using trains across the border where nobody has eyes on except maybe China. Lets route it through MULTIPLE 3rd party countries on different continents so that it could arrive to Russia (where, White Sea?) which is under sanctions on shipping.
words "I have a cunning plan" come to mind

From the studio that brought you the "Lets blow our own pipeline in a place where it is easy for opponents to investigate" and "Lets shell the nuclear station that we control and request IAEA to come look at it"
and of course the timeless classic on the stage for 8 years non-stop: "Donetsk is being shelled by their own army"
 
Yes, sure. We have this illegal military cargo, hundreds, probably thousands of tons (to make a difference)
Instead of using trains across the border where nobody has eyes on except maybe China. Lets route it through MULTIPLE 3rd party countries on different continents so that it could arrive to Russia (where, White Sea?) which is under sanctions on shipping.
words "I have a cunning plan" come to mind

From the studio that brought you the "Lets blow our own pipeline in a place where it is easy for opponents to investigate" and "Lets shell the nuclear station that we control and request IAEA to come look at it"
and of course the timeless classic on the stage for 8 years non-stop: "Donetsk is being shelled by their own army"

You think nobody is watching that border? :cry:
 
Do you have any evidence of that? I don't think we have the facts to make an opinion.

The evidence would be Russia/NK re-routing the cargo through multiple third party countries in an effort to disguise it oh, and satellite images widely available online of the border and crossings...

Nice try though.
 
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