Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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After seeing how lacklustre the Russian army's weapons system are against NATO's, Putin has called for a modernisation program to upgrade Russian weapons to combat NATO.


Gonna struggle to do that under sanctions while their domestic semiconductor capabilities are more than 20 years behind NATO countries - it'll take them a decade of focussed civilian/industrial mobilisation to catch up. Most likely like the last few decades there will be lots of talk about how they are doing it and limited results.
 
And Putin would have to fix the systemic corruption first that has seen recent Russian equipment such as their vaunted secure tactical communication system turn out to be as much use as two tin cans joined by a piece of damp string.
 
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I bet the Belarusian vehicles make the Russian stuff removed from long term storage look in decent nick.
 
I bet the Belarusian vehicles make the Russian stuff removed from long term storage look in decent nick.

It is interesting comparing Russian and Belarusian storage facilities in satellite imagery. There is a vast difference in the state of them (access roads maintained, etc.) and how much is garaged up vs left in the open, etc.
 
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After seeing how lacklustre the Russian army's weapons system are against NATO's, Putin has called for a modernisation program to upgrade Russian weapons to combat NATO.

We’ve been here before. Putin initiated a modernisation programme in the ‘00s which the A14 Armata was one result. In short, the Russian programme was so bad it makes our own efforts look like a shining beacon of hope
 
They are making a horrible mess of it.
in what way? The increase in energy prices in the EU is in general lower than the UK, so they are definitely pooling their resources to get a better outcome than the UK despite many of them originally having a higher exposure to Russian gas. The EU has successfully implemented a windfall tax on energy companies to reduce consumer costs while the UK did the exact opposite and provided energy companies with money directly paid by UK tax payers, which will ironically be used to reduce the prices of EU consumer energy .

The EU rapidly introduced wide sweeping emergency plans in record time and in strong consensus, ensuring lower prices and reduced risks of energy shortages. They introduced new international partners which have successfully ensured all gas reserves are at capacity , and are tackling the crisis as a united block by sharing storage resources equitably. Simultaneously they have shown there plans to reduce gas usage by 15% to be on track. And long term they are bringing forwards the 100% renewable energy initiatives.

So what have they made a mess of? They have succeeded in meeting their goals and so far been very successful in rapidly reducing reliance on Russian gas.
 
in what way? The increase in energy prices in the EU is in general lower than the UK, so they are definitely pooling their resources to get a better outcome than the UK despite many of them originally having a higher exposure to Russian gas. The EU has successfully implemented a windfall tax on energy companies to reduce consumer costs while the UK did the exact opposite and provided energy companies with money directly paid by UK tax payers, which will ironically be used to reduce the prices of EU consumer energy .

The EU rapidly introduced wide sweeping emergency plans in record time and in strong consensus, ensuring lower prices and reduced risks of energy shortages. They introduced new international partners which have successfully ensured all gas reserves are at capacity , and are tackling the crisis as a united block by sharing storage resources equitably. Simultaneously they have shown there plans to reduce gas usage by 15% to be on track. And long term they are bringing forwards the 100% renewable energy initiatives.

So what have they made a mess of? They have succeeded in meeting their goals and so far been very successful in rapidly reducing reliance on Russian gas.

All seems well and good if you look at it superficially as your points are - reality is a bit different when you look at the details such as how soon other energy initiatives can be brought forward, the future reliance on gas and how well the storage can stand up, and how much Russian gas was used, funding the war effort, to stabilise the situation despite bringing other international partners into the mix. And like with the UK it is all well and good in the short term but the longer term problem is far from sorted.

There is very little in the way of a unified Union wide plan to reduce reliance on gas in the long term in a feasible time table.

PS I'm just as critical of the UK in terms of how short sighted the planning is for this.
 
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Gonna struggle to do that under sanctions while their domestic semiconductor capabilities are more than 20 years behind NATO countries - it'll take them a decade of focussed civilian/industrial mobilisation to catch up. Most likely like the last few decades there will be lots of talk about how they are doing it and limited results.

This guy did a good video on Russia's semiconductor industry. Surprise surprise its badly lacking.

 
You mean like they did with vaccines for the virus? When the whatsit hits the fan EU member states go to "Every man for themselves" status :) It really is pitiful how some people hold the current disarray the EU is in as the doyen of governance.

One of the few member states not having a potentially disastrous energy crisis on the horizon, and not being under seige by migrants is held as a pariah state by Brussels.

Now imagine the EU didn't exist. There is no way 99% of its member countries would be untied behind Ukraine. Its a group of sovereign nations, the US is a country and it can't even unite all states behind a single idea. The EU isn't perfect, far from it but its better than no EU.
 
perhaps your could provide citations for pro-Russian politics in Germany?

Rather, you seem to be confused with the pro-Russian far-right republican parties on the USA, or how the Tory party welcoming Russian influence despite warnings from MI5
Examples being:

Consistently reluctant to send aid (remember at the start when other countries were starting to send weapons, and all Germany offered was some helmets...), and considering their leading role in Europe the quantity has been low. Many hold that opinion: https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/09/27/baltic-states-ukraine-war-russia-germany-military-aid/

They have also been very slow to actually follow through on deals they announced with other countries too send them replacement tanks in order for them to send their tanks to Ukraine :

But even the government's slow and very limited response has caused protests. There are groups on the far right like AfD (which had a 10% vote share last election, polling at 15% now) and the left which don't want sanctions on Russia, and seem generally sceptical about other aid to Ukraine.

Reflected in polls where for example, around 20% of Germans think the West is supplying too much military aid to Ukraine. Similar proportion would support Russian claims to Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk, and cease all sanctions if they simply agreed no further military operations but without giving up ANY territory they have gained.
Those numbers are larger than for the US, and much larger than the UK, to compare.

These are still minority opinions as I say, but I think it's clear they have had an effect / reflect how active Germany (which should be taking a European leadership role) is willing to be in countering Russia.

Maybe I'm being slightly hyperbolic describing this sort of thing as pro-russia (although I don't think it's necessarily inaccurate looking at what some of the AfD politicians have been up to,for example...), but in effect it supports and enables Russia so might as well be.
 
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Now imagine the EU didn't exist. There is no way 99% of its member countries would be untied behind Ukraine. Its a group of sovereign nations, the US is a country and it can't even unite all states behind a single idea. The EU isn't perfect, far from it but its better than no EU.

Off topic a bit but I will agree that the EU is good for some things. Like ref Ukraine response. I am an EU sceptic so I an pleased that we are no longer in it however for those reasons it sometimes does a reasonable job.
 
Off topic a bit but I will agree that the EU is good for some things. Like ref Ukraine response. I am an EU sceptic so I an pleased that we are no longer in it however for those reasons it sometimes does a reasonable job.
Nothing to do with the EU, more to do with NATO and their dislike of Russia. Ie being under the protective umbrella of NATO all for one one for all. This is why China Russia don't like NATO.
 
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Reflected in polls where for example, around 20% of Germans think the West is supplying too much military aid to Ukraine.

The AfD and Linke are extremists on the left and right; and their opinions are no different from those put forward by their parallels in the UK, whether dressed up in the "just talk" gibberish of the likes of Corbyn or more explicit support for Putin. Nor is that figure of 20% particular different to the UK (where 18% oppose both sending money for weapons and weapons themselves). The fact is that the overwhelming majority of the German public back more support for Ukraine, and various widely reported but small scale pro-Russian protests have been met with widespread disgust.

Germany has long standing laws, conventions, and positions regarding getting involved in foreign wars - do I really need to explain why that might be? - which has led to a general reluctance to take any kind of leading role in military support for Ukraine. This has been worsened by the fact that the government is a three way coalition that must agree the position between the SDP, the Greens, and the FDP. The SDP is led by the character of Chancellor Scholz - who was essentially elected because he was the most boring, normal, risk-adverse candidate - and a left wing of the party that has historically sought closer relations with "communist" Russia, as well as a streak of naive pacifism. The Greens are a far more sensible and pragmatic bunch than the British Green party but are still to the left of the SDP and also inclined to naive anti-war positions. The FDP meanwhile are balls-to-the-wall laissez faire nutters (think the Cleggian wing of the Lib Dems) and much more concerned about anything that hurts businesses and profits than the SDP or the Greens, so make getting sanctions agreed much more difficult.

None-the-less, the German government overturned decades of policy within weeks and started sending weapons into an active warzone, and committed large sums of money to supporting Ukraine in short order. Those sums aren't the largest in percentage terms, but they're pretty big by comparison with the other large European countries (Poland aside) and go alongside the co-ordinated EU response.

Germany is also less well placed to provide direct support than one might imagine. Following the fall of the Iron Curtain, Germany rapidly downscaled its military and the Bundeswehr (German military) is a substantially less capable force than that of the UK or France, as well as being one which is aggressively configured specifically to defend Germany rather than get involved in overseas conflicts. One of the first things the coalition agreed on was a rapid U-turn on this approach, and over the next decade the Bundeswehr is likely to return to being Europe's strongest military. All this means that Germany has no great stockpiles of equipment it can send without critically weakening its own forces, and also that any acquisition of new equipment for Ukraine is now competing with Germany acquiring that equipment for its own use.

Maybe I'm being slightly hyperbolic describing this sort of thing as pro-russia (although I don't think it's necessarily inaccurate looking at what some of the AfD politicians have been up to,for example...), but in effect it supports and enables Russia so might as well be.

Total rubbish. Like many others I'd like Germany to be doing more to support Ukraine but arguing that its level of support for Ukraine "supports and enables" Russia is total and utter horse leavings. Germany is doing more than many other nations (as an aside, why is it that France isn't getting it in the neck more, it's not only sending less support but is also better placed to send support).
 
Boeing E-8C Joint STARS sniffing around Belarus - mildly interesting not seen them showing up publicly at least on those missions.
 
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