Where has NATO acted outside of Afghanistan ?that was only enacted after the attack on the US.
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Where has NATO acted outside of Afghanistan ?that was only enacted after the attack on the US.
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or perhaps they cant forget the fact that Russians end a war when they enter your capital city...
On a sidenote, Europe must have a war every 25 years on average, is it encoded in our DNA perhaps?
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Do you even know any of the history surrounding the incidents you're on about, or are you just typing any old rubbish that comes into your head?
I think it's clear what the answer to that one is...
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They mean russian speakers most of whom were settled during the soviet era, its the same with populations in lithuania and latvia who identify as russians and would like reunification with mother russia. It was part of phase of trying to dominate the natives with settlers the same as china is doing in Uigher areas and Tibet they're bringing in huge numbers of han chinese.
It could have been worse Stalin removed entire populations like the muslim Tatars who once dominated and ruled Crimea they once ruled russia too, the lollypop domes of Ivan the Terrible's St. Basils Cathedral in Moscow represents the turbans of the conquered Tatars
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Nope, Germany is part of NATO, they're obliged by treaty to go to war with Russia should they attack any other NATO members, other NATO members are already supplying arms to Ukraine... that is what Germany is trying to disrupt on the part of Estonia.
Serbia engaged in ethnic cleansing, Libya was in the middle of a civil war and its second-largest city was about it face bombardment.
The post you quoted does mention Serbia and Libya, two countries NATO attacked (I'm not agreeing with his points just answering your question).
Well our government is currently accusing Putin of planning a plot to overthrow Ukraine's government and install a puppet pro-Russian leader so it may be imminent.
But on the flipside the Ukrainian government are officially calling our accusation ********, so maybe not so imminent xD
This is actually a myth. They are required to provide "support" to NATO members if they are attacked, however this could be as immaterial as officially condemning the attacker in the UN.
It was specifically re-drafted this way because the USA refused to sigh any binding document that required them to actually help if NATO was attacked.
Not a myth, the whole principle behind it is collective defence, an attack on any NATO member is considered an attack on all, it's in article 5 of the treaty.
As if US and UK forces in Germany wouldn’t be used to support say Estonia if invaded, German is pot committed regardless.
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Well I'm here in kiev no war just yet, reporting live its snowing though.
I have no idea whether this is true or not (too drunk to look it up - my google fu is compromised) but the irony here is that the only country to ever invoke Article 5 is the USA.
EDIT: My generation lived with the ever-threat of WW3. I hope we arent going back to that time. People from that era will know what this song means.
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This is my hope as well, the music though was awesome!
The Russian army will need days to finish that "war". Don't expect anything lasting too much.
Except that the Ukraine is not a NATO member and NATO has nothing to do with its security.
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But he said “Ukraine, of course, cannot meet the requirements because it’s occupied, at least [in] the Donbas region by the Russian army or by what they call militias.”
The German Vice Admiral then continued: “Take other countries like Georgia. Georgia is willing to become a member [of NATO]. Do they meet requirements? Yes, yes, they do. Is it smart to have them as a member? No, it’s not, no it’s not.”
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‘Not Smart’ to Have Georgia in NATO, Says German Navy Chief – Civil.ge
It wasn't NATO's business to engage in Serbia's own internal affairs. Even less so to bomb the peaceful citizens with depleted uranium..
"According to Serbian officials, the bombing resulted in deaths of 3,500 to 4,000 people, while some 10,000 people were injured, two-thirds of them being civilians. The material damages amounted up to $100 billion. During the three months of the bombing, NATO dropped 15 tonnes of depleted uranium as bombs."
Cancer-stricken Serbian sues NATO for use of depleted uranium in 1999 attack on Yugoslavia - World - TASS
I guess NATO does have to be careful still about the (unlikely still, but risky) issue of shenanigans with the Baltic states too.
There was also stuff on twitter the other day about USN ships positioning themselves near Taiwan to try and ward off China from doing anything silly at the same time, that's perhaps the bigger risk as the US might well respond there militarily whereas I don't think anyone else is going to respond militarily here beyond providing intelligence and supplies and training to Ukraine and to any future possible Ukrainian insurgency campaign.
I wonder how much Ukrainian territory Putin intends to take, the amphibious ships he's sending could indicate a desire to capture Odesa too and cut off Ukraine's access to the sea. Also industrial parts of the East perhaps. I suspect any future insurgency could be used as an excuse for Russia to invade further (if they don't attempt to capture the whole country right away.)
Could he go all the way to Moldova, up to the thin strip of disputed territory there which already hosts Russian troops (though, aside from the peace monitors, mostly recruited locally from among the Russian identifying population), could perhaps just leave a bit of Ukraine
We're talking about Germany, not Ukraine there, re-read the post. Germany absolutely is a NATO member, it has been a member since 1955 via West Germany.
The peaceful citizens... sure, back in reality though there was a bit of ethnic cleansing the international community was a tad concerned about and it was absolutely the UN's business to worry about that.
There was also stuff on twitter the other day about USN ships positioning themselves near Taiwan to try and ward off China from doing anything silly at the same time, that's perhaps the bigger risk as the US might well respond there militarily whereas I don't think anyone else is going to respond militarily here beyond providing intelligence and supplies and training to Ukraine and to any future possible Ukrainian insurgency campaign.
I wonder how much Ukrainian territory Putin intends to take, the amphibious ships he's sending could indicate a desire to capture Odesa too and cut off Ukraine's access to the sea. Also industrial parts of the East perhaps. I suspect any future insurgency could be used as an excuse for Russia to invade further (if they don't attempt to capture the whole country right away.)
Could he go all the way to Moldova, up to the thin strip of disputed territory there which already hosts Russian troops (though, aside from the peace monitors, mostly recruited locally from among the Russian identifying population), could perhaps just leave a bit of Ukraine
We're talking about Germany, not Ukraine there, re-read the post. Germany absolutely is a NATO member, it has been a member since 1955 via West Germany.
The peaceful citizens... sure, back in reality though there was a bit of ethnic cleansing the international community was a tad concerned about and it was absolutely the UN's business to worry about that.
No, the EU and NATO simply wanted Croatia to join them and the whole thing was a political theatre to justify the newly divided Yugoslavian state.
There are many global problems, why doesn't NATO engage there? Because there is no political will..
Well, this was literally in Europe near to a bunch of NATO members, but again it was the international community that had concerns, NATO simply took the lead in the resulting peace support operations.
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Spot on, double standards all the way inside NATO. What is NATO doing concerning the casus belli Turkey threatens if Greece exercise its legitimate right to expand its EEZ to 12 miles? casus belli is a threat of war for those who dont know. NATO is pretending it hasnt got any clue. What has NATO done when Turkey opened the gates with thousands of refugees storming violently the Greek frontier last year? nothing.
RUSSIA is like a password to all hell break lose over nothing...
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Yeah, Turkey should not be a NATO member at all. Instead, it should be disassembled as a country and given the Kurds the right to establish their own state.
You know the Kurds are the largest population up to 45 million people that hasn't got yet its own state.
Kurd | History, Culture, & Language | Britannica
How have you ended up misquoting me? Can you go and edit your post so you're quoting the right person please?
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