Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Sounds like a jet very weird!

Or a cruise missile! Maybe it was a storm shadow missile as suggested above, I'm just curious where they launched it from or if they have a slightly longer range than previously thought.

It does beg the question, why not give them ATACMS too if they've got cruise missiles now! Also with HIMARS NATO has to approve targets AFAIK and they're not allowed to use them to strike Russia yet this is a strike into Russia quite possibly with a NATO-supplied long-range weapon.
 
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That doesn't answer why though if they've got cruise missiles with significant range.

Also, they do have UK and German MLRS if they were to be supplied with ATACMS by some other nation (like Romania).
 
The US has announced massive artillery ammunition production ramp ups. The stated intention is to be able to supply its own stocks and allies to pre war levels as well as to be able to supply more ammunition to Ukraine than Russia can supply to its own army

To achieve these goals, the US is expanding its artillery ammunition production by 3 times over the current level and then it will take that number and double/triple it again within 3 years.

This explains why the pentagon has put out procurement notices recently asking for factories across the U.S. that wish to change to ammunition production to put in a proposal
 
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The US has announced massive artillery ammunition production ramp ups. The stated intention is to be able to supply its own stocks and allies to pre war levels as well as to be able to supply more ammunition to Ukraine than Russia can supply to its own army

To achieve these goals, the US is expanding its artillery ammunition production by 600% over the current level


This explains why the pentagon has put out procurement notices recently asking for factories across the U.S. that wish to change to ammunition production to put in a proposal
that sounds a bit concerning. Plan for the worst, hope for the best I guess.
 
that sounds a bit concerning. Plan for the worst, hope for the best I guess.

One thing made obvious by all this is that the West doesn't have sufficient capacity for the rapid production of munitions. It's only sensible to ensure capability is substantially increased for the future.
 
One thing made obvious by all this is that the West doesn't have sufficient capacity for the rapid production of munitions. It's only sensible to ensure capability is substantially increased for the future.
That is probably not really needed. If the west was involved in a real fight rather than a proxy war, the war would be over very quickly. Russia would have been utterly destroyed in several week,s if not days.
 
That is probably not really needed. If the west was involved in a real fight rather than a proxy war, the war would be over very quickly. Russia would have been utterly destroyed in several week,s if not days.

At this stage, all you'd have to do is take out Putin and give the rest of the leaders the chance to surrender and go back to playing nice. I reckon (my own completely uninformed opinion) that he's 99% of the problem, and most of the upper echelons are just going along with it so they don't end up in the gulag. Some will be enjoying going to 'war' but I don't think you'd get anyone actually stepping up and carrying on in his shoes doing the same thing.

Either that, or you simultaneously annihilate every airbase with ship and air-launched cruise missiles.
 
That is probably not really needed. If the west was involved in a real fight rather than a proxy war, the war would be over very quickly. Russia would have been utterly destroyed in several week,s if not days.

The West can't utterly destroy Russia, because that means Nuclear escalation and then everyone loses. Crushing Russia in a field of battle beyond its borders, sure, but actually crushing the Motherland? Not an option.
 
At this stage, all you'd have to do is take out Putin and give the rest of the leaders the chance to surrender and go back to playing nice. I reckon (my own completely uninformed opinion) that he's 99% of the problem, and most of the upper echelons are just going along with it so they don't end up in the gulag. Some will be enjoying going to 'war' but I don't think you'd get anyone actually stepping up and carrying on in his shoes doing the same thing.

Either that, or you simultaneously annihilate every airbase with ship and air-launched cruise missiles.

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That doesn't answer why though if they've got cruise missiles with significant range.
I didn't intentionally post that in response to what you said FYI, it's just that the article came out at the same time you was speaking on something similar
 
That is probably not really needed. If the west was involved in a real fight rather than a proxy war, the war would be over very quickly. Russia would have been utterly destroyed in several week,s if not days.

Perhaps it's also regarding not letting China see US low on ammo.
 
The only issue I know of has been Stinger missiles as they've been out of production for the US military for nearly 20 years and can't easily be increased to match the current demand. Beyond that I don't think we're particularly oppressed at the moment in supplying Ukraine as it's mostly either old Soviet trash we had laying around or stuff that was being phased out, newer weapons like the IRIS-T or HIMARS are in production and presumably getting investment to grow supply.
 
That is probably not really needed. If the west was involved in a real fight rather than a proxy war, the war would be over very quickly. Russia would have been utterly destroyed in several week,s if not days.
We would need ground forces though to force it that quickly although the Ukrainian's would probably fill that role. Just remember Serbia got pounded for over a month with air strikes and weren't ready to give up. In the end it took intervention from the Russians/Yeltsin to get them to back down.
 
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