Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Rroff said:
EDIT: It is also difficult in any situation for individuals to get organised as a collective and effect change against a tyrannical power, even when those in power are a relative small number. Look how many workplaces no one will stand up to a tyrannical boss let alone a context like the military/politics.
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Fair point but the difference there is most people who have such bosses have the option of leaving and getting another job.
 
Don’t project how you live onto other parts of the world and expect it to be the same.

People’s current bosses hold their “employment card”. Everything has a paper trail in Russia. They need to give it back signed and documented and it’s very bad if you don’t have your official documents present and up to date, and near impossible to get a complete replacement from the ministry.
 
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You don't need to see videos of people being killed to realise how bad war is. The only one I ever recall having seen was in the Vietnam war when a man was executed with a single shot to the head. That was on television.
Newsreel footage of shattered roads, buildings and people in shock are enough to instill horror at the destructiveness of war.

Yes and Russia is a dictatorship, people lives are different there. Which is why Ukraine wants something different.
 
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The US has intercepted an Iranian ship trying to break sanctions by sending weapons to Yemen. The ship contained 70 tons of weapons including rocket parts and fuel, grenade launchers and 7.62mm rifle ammunition

hopefully they give it to ukraine
 
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xxalxx said:
Don’t project how you live onto other parts of the world and expect it to be the same.

People’s current bosses hold their “employment card”. Everything has a paper trail in Russia. They need to give it back signed and documented and it’s very bad if you don’t have your official documents present and up to date, and near impossible to get a complete replacement from the ministry.
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It's not a projection onto Russian society. Maybe I misinterpreted the comment but I believe the point Roff was making was draw a similarity between people who don't organising against a terrible ruler in order to over throw them to how to people in the west putting up with a tyrannical employer.
 
chrcoluk said:
My question for those in the thread though and this is a big concern. What happens if/when Russia are forced out of Ukraine, do they go nuclear or accept the defeat as it is? I fear the more they pushed back the more they will be willing to escalate.
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I don't think Russia gains anything by doing this - would just make it impossible for the international community to ever bring them back into the fold and risk retribution from Ukraines allies - it would just make a bad situation worse.
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
Interesting fact, Russia has lost more people this year than any other time since WW2, so this special operation is bleeding Russia dry of its manpower. Figures for Ukraine are equally worse too but Ukraine will be supported when this ends unlike Russia.
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Russia tried to downplay the deaths I seem to recall. Some nonsense about the numbers would have died anyway from other causes without the war etc (I forget exactly what was said a few months ago).
 
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A bit sensationalist/misleading linking words like 'heavy losses' and 'brigade' in the same sentence. More accurately the unit he mentions is more like a platoon or a squad size and they've lost around 6 men. No less sad but Ukraine is probably lossing at least a couple hundred guys a day giving the level of hostilities across the Donbass front.
 
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The videos coming out of bakhmut at the moment are brutal.

Russia seem to be spending a lot of resources here for what will be little to no long term gain?
 
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