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BowdonUK said:
I can't get over how the western european countries are capitulating to Russia with energy.

Why isn't the purposely cutting off of resources, specially energy and oil, considered an act of war?

Germany used 1% of its energy storage in 1 day last week during the very cold weather. If europe has a bad cold winter then Germany will totally run out of energy in just over 100 days. By that time it probably wouldn't be able to fight back if it wanted to.

It seems another method of destroying our countries, just like we see in many other areas.
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They can get more supplies in 100 days. 100 days also gets us out of the worst of winter.

Even Russia isn’t stupid enough to actually pick a fight with NATO.
 
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Grim5 said:
Some interesting info, which is relevant given Putin just told a Russian mother today that she should be proud her son died in a trench fighting for Russia and not from vodka

* Russia has the highest alcohol consumption in the world ; on average each adult drinks 18 litres spirits like Vodka each year - more than double the maximum limit according to the WHO

* 200k people die each year in Russia from alcohol poisoning; 150k men and 50k women

* Russian male life expectancy is 12 years lower than it would be if alcoholism wasn't so prominent in Russian society and 5 years for females

* The alcohol related deaths are not evenly spread they vary massively by region - for example while 15% to 20% all Russian deaths just prior to covid and the war were from alcohol poisoning, in Siberia 50% of all deaths are from alcohol

* 70% of all violent crime committed in Russia occurs while the assailant was drunk

* Alcohol is also a major factor in road deaths; with depending on the year 15 to 30 thousand road accidents leading to deaths occurring each year, compared to 1500 in the UK



Essentially Russia is a land of drunks and while heart disease and obesity are major killers in the west, alcohol is what kills them
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Easy to control a drunk population under the influence. People don’t question traditions.. all the US need todo is supply 50% vodka by the tanker truck load..
 
MikeTimbers said:
A lack of tanks being killed could mean that they're being held back for a future mass use but it is equally likely that they are being held back because they are so ineffective. It is also possible that there simply aren't any available in a functional condition.

One aspect of this war that has been eye-opening is that tanks without infantry support and suppression are easily destroyed with "cheap" weapons. You don't need better tanks to kill tanks. Tanks have traditionally been designed with strong front armour to protect it against direct fire from other tanks. Modern anti-tank weapons don't try to hit the front but instead hit the top and tanks will need to be re-designed to cope with that.
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Unsupported tanks have been vulnerable since almost as soon as they existed. Anti-tank weapons were developed very quickly after tanks were first deployed. Weak ones compared to modern anti-tank weapons, but the same was true of tanks. No competent military force ever deploys tanks without appropriate support and hasn't done so for over 100 years. The Russian military has done so but that's because it's incompetent. You only deploy unsupported tanks if you're very desperate or if you know, absolutely know, that whoever you're attacking doesn't have any viable anti-tank weapons.

There's been talk about tanks being obsolete since at least as far back as the 1920s. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now. Tanks need to be deployed correctly, but that's true of everything military. The key point is that tanks (when used correctly) can perform a military function that nothing else can do better. That's the key thing that makes military equipment obsolete - the existence of something else that can do the job better. That's why the focus has been (and continues to be) on improving protection for tanks rather than on replacing tanks with...with what?
 
Grim5 said:
Putin says the U.S Patriot missile system is outdated and they have cracked it and know how to beat it

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It's kinda hard to take him at his word, given that there is another large U.S missile system in Ukraine that they have been unable to beat and that one is even older from 1977
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It's easy to beat, if your missiles can't get through in the sky, then start digging tunnels, so Patriot will be defeated in about 2 years depending on digging speed
 
Grim5 said:
Soviet tank design was dictated by what worked well for them in WW2. They were designed to be cheap, easy to produce, run on any fuel maybe even cow ****, and most importantly require less training, maintenance and being able to put thousands on the open battlefields of Eastern European farmlands to zerg rush the enemy because it worked for them in WW2 against the Germans [..]
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The original T-34 design was actually rather good for the time. Better than German tanks of the same time. It was a bit later that things became as you describe. Partly due to German tank development during WW2 being much faster than Soviet tank development and partly due to the T-34 being repeatedly made worse in pursuit of easier, faster manufacturing. And, as you say, it worked for the Soviets. 3 mediocre tanks was better than 1 good tank. The same sort of thing applied to Germany earlier - French tanks were better than German tanks in 1939, but Germany had a lot more tanks than France.
 
Angilion said:
Unsupported tanks have been vulnerable since almost as soon as they existed. Anti-tank weapons were developed very quickly after tanks were first deployed. Weak ones compared to modern anti-tank weapons, but the same was true of tanks. No competent military force ever deploys tanks without appropriate support and hasn't done so for over 100 years. The Russian military has done so but that's because it's incompetent. You only deploy unsupported tanks if you're very desperate or if you know, absolutely know, that whoever you're attacking doesn't have any viable anti-tank weapons.

There's been talk about tanks being obsolete since at least as far back as the 1920s. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now. Tanks need to be deployed correctly, but that's true of everything military. The key point is that tanks (when used correctly) can perform a military function that nothing else can do better. That's the key thing that makes military equipment obsolete - the existence of something else that can do the job better. That's why the focus has been (and continues to be) on improving protection for tanks rather than on replacing tanks with...with what?
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If you fancy a watch, the whole thing is very good - but the clip starts with the story of a certain German tank ace, and what went wrong for the Brits
 
Republicans are malding hard over the fact that Zelensky didn't wear a suit to the White House, preferring to remain in his army greens.

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Here's Churchill during his visit to the White House during WII, dressed in his air raid outfit:

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They should have stuck to complaining about the billions the US is paying Ukraine ($100,000,000,000 so far) rather than what he looked like if they wanted to play up to their base support as most Red voters couldn't genuinely care what the guy looked like, only that he left with more of their money.
 
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Republicans are nut jobs. Fox News is claiming Zelensky looks like a manager at a strip club and he's declared war on Christianity (because Ukraine just passed a law making lgbtq hate speech illegal, so you know - Zelensky is obviously the anti christ)
 
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ianh said:
Red voters couldn't genuinely care what the guy looked like, only that he left with more of their money.
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This is true as well. If Zelensky wore a suit, they'd be saying "oh look at Zelensky he's wearing a fancy Paris suit paid for with my money" but because he wore cheap clothes they said "oh look Zelensky looks like a poor person, how disgusting"
 
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