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Freddie1980 said:
I re-read what I had posted and in hindsight I wasn't specific enough with my wording (inaccurate maybe a better way of putting it). What I was getting at was Russia's existing/remaining armour looks like it's been held back from front line work so it can be used for a new offensive in the new year once the ground is firmer and can support heavy units. When you look at the attrition rate manpower is still high whereas equipment loses have declined.
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I understood your post, but this thread is fond of being overly touchy and aggressively uncharitable reading :)

As I said earlier, I think the drop in the involvement of armour is about the current conditions rather than any future planned offensive. I think we will see an offensive from the Russians in the new year, which may well involve this uninvolved armour, but I think it's better thought of a separate deployment rather than a tactical reserve of force saved from the current fighting.
 
Before the invasion Putin was reported to have stated that he didn't care if they lost 50,000 men, essentially because he's looking at the bigger picture; his legacy and territorial expansion/claiming of territories he and other nationalist types believe are rightfully theirs. And of course, if he had been successful and the FSB had turned more members of the Ukrainian military (it seems they were partially successful in the south) and some Western countries hadn't provided aid then we might well be looking at a much smaller Ukraine acting as a buffer state around now and a load of the east and south part of Russia... and Putin would have been right, within a few generations that territory would have quite plausibly been solidified as part of Russia and with parts of the population moving, more Ukrainians moving out and ambivalent and pro-Russian Ukrainians remaining + Russians moving in then I guess history would indeed be in the hands of the victor, they'd have a better claim that the people living there wanted to be Russian and that Putin was a great man who helped solidify that etc..etc..

Instead, it hasn't worked out and his willingness to accept 50k lives lost has now had to stretch to double that figure for much less in the way of gains because today it is estimated they've lost 100k lives... all for the ambitions of an insecure little dictator:

 
Yet another fire :cry:

Putin's only aircraft carrier on fire as Soviet-era warship bursts into flames​

A fire broke out onboard Russia's sole aircraft carrier on Thursday, Russian state media reported.

The Admiral Kuznetsov, a flagship of the Russian Navy, suffered a "minor" fire while undergoing repair work at a shipyard in the Arctic port of Murmansk,according to reports by the Russian state Tass and RIA Novosti news agencies.
Both cited Aleksey Rakhmanov, head of the state-owned United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) which is overseeing a major refit of the carrier, as saying that the blaze was quickly extinguished and caused no casualties.
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Exclusive: Russia likely to buy yuan on FX market in 2023 - sources

Russia will start buying yuan on the currency market next year if oil and gas revenues meet expectations, two sources said, opening a new front in an accelerating dedollarisation drive designed to reduce its dependency on Western finance.
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*The Head of the Village of Lyubimovka Died in a Car Explosion - TASS

*Ukraine’s Zelenskiy Says He Met Polish President Duda on Way Back From Washington
 
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A lack of tanks being killed could mean that they're being held back for a future mass use but it is equally likely that they are being held back because they are so ineffective. It is also possible that there simply aren't any available in a functional condition.

One aspect of this war that has been eye-opening is that tanks without infantry support and suppression are easily destroyed with "cheap" weapons. You don't need better tanks to kill tanks. Tanks have traditionally been designed with strong front armour to protect it against direct fire from other tanks. Modern anti-tank weapons don't try to hit the front but instead hit the top and tanks will need to be re-designed to cope with that.
 
MikeTimbers said:
A lack of tanks being killed could mean that they're being held back for a future mass use but it is equally likely that they are being held back because they are so ineffective. It is also possible that there simply aren't any available in a functional condition.

One aspect of this war that has been eye-opening is that tanks without infantry support and suppression are easily destroyed with "cheap" weapons. You don't need better tanks to kill tanks. Tanks have traditionally been designed with strong front armour to protect it against direct fire from other tanks. Modern anti-tank weapons don't try to hit the front but instead hit the top and tanks will need to be re-designed to cope with that.
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Russian tank tactics defy any kind of sense. They drive around solo or in small numbers with no support trying to compete in the turret toss Olympics. Utterly retarded.
 
Senior U.S. Official:
- U.S. Intelligence Indicates the North Korean Weaponry Will Not Change Battlefield Dynamics in Ukraine
- Putin Is Increasingly Turning to Wagner Group, Run by Putin Ally Prigozhin, for Help in Ukraine
- Russian Military Company Wagner Group Took Delivery of Arms Shipment From North Korea for Russian Forces in Ukraine
- More U.S. Sanctions Coming In Weeks Ahead Against Wagner Group
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-sa...-north-korean-weapons-ukraine-war-2022-12-22/

German Foreign Minister Baerbock:
- G7 Will Coordinate More Closely on Air Defence to Support Ukraine
- We Welcome U.S. Decision to Deliver Patriot Systems to Ukraine
- We Are Looking Into Further Arms Deliveries to Ukraine Because We Know That Air Defence Saves Lives
 
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chaparral said:
Yet another fire :cry:

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No damage was done ;)

“There has been a little problem during repairs,” Mr Rakhmanov said. “The blaze has been put out. All fire alarms worked nominally. There are no casualties or damage.”
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Germany arrests intelligence service employee suspected of spying for Russia

German authorities said on Thursday they had arrested an employee of its foreign intelligence service (BND) on suspicion of sharing state secrets with Russia this year and thereby committing treason.
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White House’s Kirby
- Confirms Reuters Report That North Korea Has Completed Initial Arms Delivery to Wagner Group
- U.S. Concerned That North Korea Planning More Arms Deliveries to Wagner Group
- Will Announce Further Sanctions Against Wagner Group and Support Networks in Coming Weeks
- North Korean Arms Delivery to Wagner Group Directly Violates U.N. Security Council Resolutions
- U.S., Allies, Partners to Raise North Korean Violations With U.N. Security Council

Putin:
- U.S. Patriot Missile Systems Are Old, There Is Always an Antidote
- All Conflicts End With Diplomatic Negotiations, the Sooner Our Opponents Understand This, the Better
- To Sign Decree on Russian Response to Western Price Cap on Russian Oil Exports on Monday or Tuesday
- There Are No Losses for the Russian Economy From Price Cap
- Gas Price Cap Will Not Lead to Anything Good in Gas Sector, Same Goes For the Oil Price Cap
- We Reserve the Right to Consider Whether We Are Obliged to Fulfill Gas Contracts if Other Party Violates Them
- The People Who Blew Up the Nord Stream Pipeline Wanted Russian Gas to Europe to Be Supplied via Ukraine
- Gazprom Will Not Buy Gas From Unfriendly Countries if the Price Exceeds That Set by the Russian Cabinet - TASS Cites Putin’s Decree
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-all-conflicts-end-with-diplomacy-2022-12-22/
 
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Turn said:
www.reuters.com

Germany arrests intelligence service employee suspected of spying for Russia

German authorities said on Thursday they had arrested an employee of its foreign intelligence service (BND) on suspicion of sharing state secrets with Russia this year and thereby committing treason.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

White House’s Kirby
- Confirms Reuters Report That North Korea Has Completed Initial Arms Delivery to Wagner Group
- U.S. Concerned That North Korea Planning More Arms Deliveries to Wagner Group
- Will Announce Further Sanctions Against Wagner Group and Support Networks in Coming Weeks
- North Korean Arms Delivery to Wagner Group Directly Violates U.N. Security Council Resolutions
- U.S., Allies, Partners to Raise North Korean Violations With U.N. Security Council

Putin:
- U.S. Patriot Missile Systems Are Old, There Is Always an Antidote
- All Conflicts End With Diplomatic Negotiations, the Sooner Our Opponents Understand This, the Better
- To Sign Decree on Russian Response to Western Price Cap on Russian Oil Exports on Monday or Tuesday
- There Are No Losses for the Russian Economy From Price Cap
- Gas Price Cap Will Not Lead to Anything Good in Gas Sector, Same Goes For the Oil Price Cap
- We Reserve the Right to Consider Whether We Are Obliged to Fulfill Gas Contracts if Other Party Violates Them
- The People Who Blew Up the Nord Stream Pipeline Wanted Russian Gas to Europe to Be Supplied via Ukraine
- Gazprom Will Not Buy Gas From Unfriendly Countries if the Price Exceeds That Set by the Russian Cabinet - TASS Cites Putin’s Decree
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Thanks for your efforts to post these items, Mr Turn. They're always informative.
 
rumple9 said:
China's military is notoriously weak also
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That's very much an unproven theory

Chinas military look pretty strong to me, they have huge numbers for one.
Minstadave said:
They've been holding back their armour/air force/best troops for a very long time now......
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Is that why they're using up their prisoners first, get them out the way then send in their best?

What war are you watching? The current one has proven their best were used and destroyed

They sent the Elite in early to Kiev and got their asses kicked

Their best now is Wagner mercs but they too have been decimated and are now using convicts.

Their Chechens were massacred and ran home because they couldn't sustain their losses.

So tell me how many more are they going to sacrifice before sending in their best?

From what I can see they now only have poor convicts and drunks with no training and poor weapons, just numbers to throw into the meat grinder
 
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Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Antidote for patriots is simple, just send all your planes (anything will do) until they run out of missiles ;)

I mean I say it in jest but with the way this war is going it will turn into the Russian strategy ;)
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Don’t think they have much of anything left to send that actually flies. I’m sure they’ll deal with Patriots as they have HIMARS.
 
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bris said:
Is that why they're using up their prisoners first, get them out the way then send in their best?

What war are you watching? The current one has proven their best were used and destroyed

They sent the Elite in early to Kiev and got their asses kicked

Their best now is Wagner mercs but they too have been decimated and are now using convicts.

Their Chechens were massacred and ran home because they couldn't sustain their losses.

So tell me how many more are they going to sacrifice before sending in their best?

From what I can see they now only have poor convicts and drunks with no training and poor weapons, just numbers to throw into the meat grinder
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My post was very much sarcastic.
 
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