Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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We should do the same.

If we were willing to fund the fairly large tax increases it would require, or alternatively cut funding to other things instead, to find the extra £15 Billion (approx £465 extra from each tax payer) then I'm sure we could easily match France's percentage increase but we seem to be unwilling (both Government and "the people") to do that during the current cost of living crisis, which is probably understandable TBF.
 
Am I the only one who thinks 14 tanks is a bit 'meh'?

14 Challengers aren't going to win the war that's for sure but if they use them sparingly and intelligently, supporting their infantry in key battles, retaking strategic towns, then they could make all the difference between winning and losing. They're a class apart from anything the Russians can put up against them.

...and there is (just) enough capacity in the Challenger fleet to send another two squadrons worth (28 tanks) if push really comes to shove.
 
14 Challengers aren't going to win the war that's for sure but if they use them sparingly and intelligently, supporting their infantry in key battles, retaking strategic towns, then they could make all the difference between winning and losing. They're a class apart from anything the Russians can put up against them.

...and there is (just) enough capacity in the Challenger fleet to send another two squadrons worth (28 tanks) if push really comes to shove.

Indeed used in concert with the Bradley's they will prove to be a very potent breakthrough force.


Wonder if they will be up armoured or will the Ukrainians stick reactive armour over them? Will be interesting for sure, the square nature of western tanks surly lend themselves to the bricks more than the rounded t series.
 
If we were willing to fund the fairly large tax increases it would require, or alternatively cut funding to other things instead, to find the extra £15 Billion (approx £465 extra from each tax payer) then I'm sure we could easily match France's percentage increase but we seem to be unwilling (both Government and "the people") to do that during the current cost of living crisis, which is probably understandable TBF.

Governments/politicians are there to lead. That often means selling initially unpopular policies to people because they are our long term strategic interest. Otherwise they aren’t leaders, they are just followers.

We desperately need leadership on a whole range of issues.
 
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Nice bit of gas-lighting from Ukraine because apparently we aren't helping them enough.


Yet if we help them too much, Putin will see it as escalation.

Catch-22 situation.
The whole escalation argument is BS in my book. Where does he go? Putin knows if he tries any sort of nuclear strike it will mean the end for him as the full force of NATO will come crashing down on his army so that's out of the question and his army is already using white phosphorous, cluster munitions, suicide drones and long range missiles on civilians to terrorise Ukrainians into submission. It's clear to every man and his dog Russia doesn't follow any international rules and committing war crimes as an operational requirement. This is how these ******** treat ordinary people, can you imagine how these sicko's treat captured soldiers?

My partners uncle is still being held by these monsters, 6 months now. Last we heard he was in Crimea but he was later moved to somewhere in Russia. I have to say the International Red Cross has been a life line in this regard, hopefully he will be included in the next round of prisoner swaps (were a bit suspicious why he hasn't come home already given the passage of time).
 
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