Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Lol Russia has cleaned out it's prisons what is left is no better they are cannon fodder with even more angry mums. They cant afford to lose grip on borders as the stanz will want some same as china. Russia may win but the nation is still ******
 
Russia's economy is feeling the pain.

Russia saw a budget deficit of 3.3 trillion rubles ($47 billion) last year, the second highest in the country’s recent history.

The 2.3% budget gap was exceeded only in 2020, when it hit 4.1 trillion rubles ($58 billion), or 3.8% of GDP, during the coronavirus pandemic.

Russia forecasts that its budget deficit could reach 3 trillion rubles ($43 billion) this year, while analysts say it could go as high as 4.5 trillion rubles ($64 billion). Amid the Ukraine war, at least one-third of the country’s expenditures are expected to go toward defense and security.
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You love to see it!

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Custor said:
I’m not sure world leaders follow GD forum.
They’re more Speakers Corner type people when on the way back from Davos. Anything you post here makes zero difference to the war.
Your win - isn’t.
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No **** sherlock.

That poster is a nut job. He has a long history of posting things Newsmax wouldn't touch.

Win what? Its a forum, for discussion, are you confused?
 
Chris Wilson said:
No, we are haemorrhaging money and equipment for purposes that are beyond me, stuff we can ill afford to squander, and may need on home soil one day, posibly not too far away. Quite how we, and others in the west, constantly go eagerly into situations that have sod all to do with us, to countries that would never even consider reciprocation, and for which the chance of financial recompense from is less than zero is a great mystery.

Putin is showing restraint so far, if he decides to really play nasty it would be interesting to see the west's true resolve. In a war that's so far one of slow attrition, like Vietnam, the west does not have the resolve of its people once things get really shaky to support a country many would not even have been able to vaguely pinpoint on a map until all this kicked off.

The majority of the bravado seems to come from young war game players and politicians so isolated from reality and statesmanship as to be risible. It'll either kick off uncontrollably or the west will find a cop out once the people (voters) find their Bohemian, hedonistic and consumerist way of life becoming too interrupted. Should the EU or GB even moot conscription it will be fascinating to hear how the currently pugilistic start to excuse themselves from what they currently enthusiastically support...
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And another Putin appeaser. And no Enoch we won't need that hardware at home. My god you live in a fantasy world.

If he decides to really play nasty? Raping, murdering civilians and kidnapping children is being nice is it? Another one who would have appeased Hitler in the 1930s, in fact you would likely have been with the Blackshirts.
 
Sankari said:
The coalition successfully invaded and defeated Iraq with just 160,000 men, inside the space of 1 month. That includes the capture of Baghdad and the overthrow of the Iraqi government. At that time, Iraq had an active force of 538,000 men, and 650,000 reserves.

It was a classic triumph of quality over quantity.
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Maybe you want to edit wikipedia with your numbers ?
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
If he decides to really play nasty?
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I assume amongst other things he means covert and overt military action on a wider level i.e. destroying facilities in other countries repairing Ukraine hardware, etc. - but that quickly doesn't end well for Russia if for anyone, but mostly not for Russia.
 
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Rroff said:
I assume amongst other things he means covert and overt military action on a wider level i.e. destroying facilities in other countries repairing Ukraine hardware, etc. - but that quickly doesn't end well for Russia if for anyone, but mostly not for Russia.
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Exactly, its an empty threat that some people just get sucked into believing by watching the likes of Tucker Carlson. I'm honesty sick to death of these people, they'd happily hang Ukraine out to dry for their ideology because they are told to. They can't think beyond what they are being told and seem to believe Putin isn't really our enemy but is actually our friend and its the "globalist elites" that are our enemy :rolleyes:
 
tang0 said:
Does anyone actually think Ukraine is going to win this war, it's so pointless to let it drag out like this. The numbers of Russians killed that we're being told is vastly overestimated

Russia has an endless supply of oil money, millions of reservists, munitions and tanks are constantly being produced, nuclear weapons. The Ruble hasn't tanked like people said it would. Russia can play the slow game, and there's nothing Ukraine can do about it
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It’s like some mental Russian wish fulfilment bs. If Ukraine are so hopelessly outclassed then why isn’t this over already?
Some of the views expressed in here are so …. out there, that I genuinely wonder if there’s some state sponsored effort to propagate disinformation which useful idiots can then pick up.
Empty bins rattle the loudest and all that.
 
I expected Russia to steamroll Ukraine in a few days, but it didn't happen for a few reasons that I doubt will change anytime soon.

1) Ukrainians are willing to fight and die for their land. (And the west is willing to supply them)

2) Russia is nowhere near as effective in combat as they appeared they would be prior to them starting this war.

3) Russia's effectiveness seems to have been hollowed out by corruption.
 
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tang0 said:
It's called talking facts, we'll see in the coming weeks/months to see who is right shall we
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You mean like when the colonel you just linked a video for said the war would be over in a few days at the start? lol.

I'll put it this way. If you are European, and you value your safety and sovereignty, then you REALLY won't want Russia to be getting a win in Ukraine. Not only will this be seen as a win by Russia, but by China as well. Then it won't be long till they finally invade Taiwan, because they will realize that it's just a matter of time, keep throwing bodies at the problem. Where do you think we get a ton of our advanced tech manufactured? This is just ONE reason, and your utterly blind if you can't see it.
 
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Twinz said:
I expected Russia to steamroll Ukraine in a few days, but it didn't happen for a few reasons that I doubt will change anytime soon.

1) Ukrainians are willing to fight and die for their land. (And the west is willing to supply them)

2) Russia is nowhere near as effective in combat as they appeared they would be prior to them starting this war.

3) Russia's effectiveness seems to have been hollowed out by corruption.
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Pretty much this. Russia didn't consider things properly before they invaded Ukraine. I can kind of see where that philosopy came from, as they invaded Crimea, and there wasn't much of an EU repsonse, never mind a wider unofficial global western coalition.

That said, now it's become apparent that the Russian 'war machine' is more a cub, than a bear, and they are not the super-power they like to project... it's gonna get nasty.

The longer it goes on, the weaker Russia will get and the more supply Ukraine will get, The Russian econaomy is FUBAR long term already with them using up all thier decent equipment and soldiers, plus all the economic sanctions.. and it's only going to get worse for Russia.

It's gonna get worse for Ukraine before it gets better too, I fear, but the EU and the US simply won't tollerate a Russian-run Ukraine by way of invasion or by way of bent elections and war.

So we're at a juxtaposition... Russia can press the 'stop' button any time it wants, otherwise it's a very long protracted war that Russia already knows it can't win, at the expence of russian conscripts and Ukrainians fighting for thier lives.
 
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Minstadave said:
Isn't this the same guy Amnesia was quoting? Ah, it was kylew_is_back. You're in great company there......
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This guy (Douglas McGregor) is a genius, quick google turns up some absolute gems

* He says he strongly supports war in Iraq and thinks the US should have gone in even harder

* He says black people are an entitled underclass group of society and they pose a threat to the U.S

* On Fox News in 2019 he stated that mostly slaves in America were white people not black. He's a regular on Fox appearing dozens of times and he is highly praised by Tucker Carlson and Trump

* He's appeared previously on RT news arguing against NATO intervention to help any Muslims and he wants Nato disbanded

* He hates Mexican immigrants and says they are uneducated criminals and destroy the culture of real Americans. He wants martial law for the border and border guards should shoot to kill Mexicans trying to cross over

* He blames Americas immigration issues on Marxist Jews who he says are trying to destroy American culture

* Since the war in Ukraine started he's appeared on RT numerous times saying he supports Russia and Russia needs to annex Ukraine, he argues the people are all Russian and Russia military will annihilate Ukraine




And these idiots aren't unique, the rest of the so called experts the Russian bots pull up have just as of a shady background of not worse. Take for example Scott Ritter, he's very popular among Russian propaganda and also a multiple times convicted child rapist...
 
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Minusorange said:
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Maybe you want to edit wikipedia with your numbers ?
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No, you just need to read Wikipedia more carefully.

The 2003 invasion of Iraq was a United States-led invasion of the Republic of Iraq and the first stage of the Iraq War. The invasion phase began on 19 March 2003 (air) and 20 March 2003 (ground) and lasted just over one month, including 26 days of major combat operations, in which a combined force of troops from the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia and Poland invaded Iraq.

Twenty-two days after the first day of the invasion, the capital city of Baghdad was captured by Coalition forces on 9 April 2003 after the six-day-long Battle of Baghdad. This early stage of the war formally ended on 1 May 2003 when U.S. President George W. Bush declared the "end of major combat operations" in his Mission Accomplished speech, after which the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) was established as the first of several successive transitional governments leading up to the first Iraqi parliamentary election in January 2005.

...The U.S.-led coalition sent 160,000 troops into Iraq during the initial invasion phase, which lasted from 19 March to 1 May 2003.
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(Source).

Iraq was beaten inside 1 month, with just 160,000 men. The figure of 956,000 is the total number of coalition forces who served throughout the entire 8 year conflict.

With the exception of Israel, Middle Eastern armies are typically reliant more on manpower than superior technology or fighting prowess. A solid Western force could smash most of them without too much trouble.
 
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Sankari said:
No, you just need to read Wikipedia more carefully.



(Source).

Iraq was beaten inside 1 month, with just 160,000 men. The figure of 956,000 is the total number of coalition forces who served throughout the entire 8 year conflict.

With the exception of Israel, Middle Eastern armies are typically reliant more on manpower than superior technology or fighting prowess. A solid Western force could smash most of them without too much trouble.
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I think that's an understatement - https://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars
 
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