Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Terminal_Boy said:
Who’s got the capability to bring down dozens of LEO satellites?

The USAF struggled to down a ballon over the USA…
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Thats not true

They didn't struggle, they shot it down on first attempt
They didn't WANT to bring it down earlier since due to height and materials unknown they didn't want it falling on populated areas.

They did what they wanted, to bring it down in the sea within in their nautical zone.
 
ianh said:
Sorry, but you're not allowed to point out peoples hypocrisy in here, ever. They can't understand it so they assume you must be an enemy who is attacking them, making it OK in their mind to attack you with outright lies about the various things they "think" you've said which all turn out to be things they've invented instead. Threads get derailed, tempers get frayed and rational, adult behaviour swiftly gets left behind in the mad rush to "win" something on the internet, by which point it's just two people quoting each other, its all just pathetic in the end.
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People have challenged you on your 'opinions' and then you just do a runner when it doesn't go your way and you refuse to respond to the questions asked. Are you really surprised when you keep throwing your toys out of your pram?
 
ianh said:
Sorry, but you're not allowed to point out peoples hypocrisy in here, ever. They can't understand it so they assume you must be an enemy who is attacking them, making it OK in their mind to attack you with outright lies about the various things they "think" you've said which all turn out to be things they've invented instead. Threads get derailed, tempers get frayed and rational, adult behaviour swiftly gets left behind in the mad rush to "win" something on the internet, by which point it's just two people quoting each other, its all just pathetic in the end.
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Irony as you derail the thread while talking about derailing the thread.

Okay Mr Rule 4.
 
Telegraph reporting Russia has just blown up a bridge at odessa with a "small drone boat".

It's amazing, and pretty worrying, how quickly drone technology is developing in this war.
 
potatolord said:
Telegraph reporting Russia has just blown up a bridge at odessa with a "small drone boat".

It's amazing, and pretty worrying, how quickly drone technology is developing in this war.
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Happened yesterday it seems.

Is this video okay? Its not an attack on any civs or people just the drone boat going into the bridge?

Please let me know and i'll remove it.
 
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ianh said:
Sorry, but you're not allowed to point out peoples hypocrisy in here, ever. They can't understand it so they assume you must be an enemy who is attacking them, making it OK in their mind to attack you with outright lies about the various things they "think" you've said which all turn out to be things they've invented instead. Threads get derailed, tempers get frayed and rational, adult behaviour swiftly gets left behind in the mad rush to "win" something on the internet, by which point it's just two people quoting each other, its all just pathetic in the end.
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There's a war raging in Europe (again) and it's not usually considered the done thing to start rooting for what is in reality 'the other side'.
No wonder posters who do that get short shrift imo.
 
ubersonic said:
Starlink and Twitter are separate companies, the gains/losses of one has no effect on the other (besides which Twitter was haemorrhaging money when he bought it so he probably expected it).
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egh? twitter is permitting misinformation on the Ukrainain ('war crimes') drone activities which are utilising starlink and twitter should probably be sanctioned
(new incoming UK internet harms bill notwithstanding, and exclusion of russia from olympics ....)
starlink is good publicity for Musk as a humantarian gesture (versus submarine colamity say)
and, as per multiple articles on Tesla car devaluations, people are loosing confidence in Musk due to twitter behaviour , would you buy cars from a Russian sympathiser.

join the dots
( good podcast Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency ... to my conviction that what we are concerned with here is the fundamental interconnectedness of all things )
 
Uther said:
There's a war raging in Europe (again) and it's not usually considered the done thing to start rooting for what is in reality 'the other side'.
No wonder posters who do that get short shrift imo.
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If you care to look on a map, geographically Russia is divided into European Russia and Asiatic Russia. Plus those of us with strong nationalistic ties see ourselves as British or English, Welsh or Scottish, as demonstrated by the recent referendum, not tied to the European Union and not considering ourselves foremost under the broader umbrella of European.

The currently militarily active parts of Russia engaging The Ukraine are just as European as any other geographical member. Personally I think the majority of fevered members so anti Russia are coming from a political entrenchment more than a moralistic one. If Russia had invaded say Kazakhstan few here would have given a monkey's.
 
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Chris Wilson said:
Personally I think the majority of fevered members so anti Russia are coming from a political entrenchment more than a moralistic one. If Russia had invade say Kazakhstan few here would have given a monkey's.
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I support Ukraine for two reasons:

1) Budapest Memorandum (No country will ever give up Nukes in exchange for security assurances again if we don't support Ukraine)

2) They have demonstrated a willingness to fight and die for their land. They are not just cowering in the corner and waiting for others to do the heavy lifting.
 
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Chris Wilson said:
If you care to look on a map, geographically Russia is divided into European Russia and Asiatic Russia. Plus those of us with strong nationalistic ties see ourselves as British or English, Welsh or Scottish, as demonstrated by the recent referendum, not tied to the European Union and not considering ourselves foremost under the broader umbrella of European.

The currently militarily active parts of Russia engaging The Ukraine are just as European as any other geographical member. Personally I think the majority of fevered members so anti Russia are coming from a political entrenchment more than a moralistic one. If Russia had invaded say Kazakhstan few here would have given a monkey's.
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Of course it matters that Russia is invading Ukraine and not Kazakhstan, one in in Europe and on the door step of the EU and NATO and the other isn't.

What political entrenchment are you talking about exactly? Posters from both left and right are supporting Ukraine in this. Russia has been pushing its luck for years. From murdering on foreign soil, invading Ukraine in 2014 and interfering in elections. It has now managed to unite 99% of the West against it. Like it or not it matters when there is war in Europe again. People might be interested in wars that are half the world away but when they are on your doorstep it becomes front and centre of attention.
 
Chris Wilson said:
If you care to look on a map, geographically Russia is divided into European Russia and Asiatic Russia. Plus those of us with strong nationalistic ties see ourselves as British or English, Welsh or Scottish, as demonstrated by the recent referendum, not tied to the European Union and not considering ourselves foremost under the broader umbrella of European.

The currently militarily active parts of Russia engaging The Ukraine are just as European as any other geographical member. Personally I think the majority of fevered members so anti Russia are coming from a political entrenchment more than a moralistic one. If Russia had invaded say Kazakhstan few here would have given a monkey's.
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Goes without saying, hopefully this can be resolved peacefully, people can start talking to each other, make compromises and put and end to all this.

If all else fails, you can throw your moral compass away, because of someone comes after me, my family or country I'm there, I'm ready, and tooth and nail to the end.

You don't sound like that kinda guy, fair enough, hopefully you are not next to me in the trenches.
 
Don't mistake 'Hating what Russia is doing', for 'Hating Russia'. They as a society had come a long way in recent years, but still held back by their own government. They literally have a KGB guy running the Church as well. Insane. Total control, and very fascist like.

I hope judgement comes to those in charge and Russia can get on track, retaining its culture whilst becoming more democratic.
 
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I don't know why people assume Russia invading Kazakhstan would somehow be OK, or that no one would care. The key difference here is that it's nearer to us, and as such we have a real possibility of doing something. Russia may well have found Kazakhstan an easier target because logistics.

I'm on the side of whichever country doesn't deserve it. China attacking Taiwan, North Korea attacking SK, Turkey attacking Greece etc. All have the same kind of deal.

Also this isn't a minor conflict far removed from things, this is one of the worlds great powers making moves, that tends to gain more attention because there aren't that many great powers to begin with.
 
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