Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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bris said:
That's a lot of men, 3 to 5 thousand, how long was this over?
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A lot of Russian brigades are undermanned - previous almost entire "brigade" wipes were like upper 400s causalities - I'm not sure sometimes when brigade is mentioned they are actually talking about a BTG.

IIRC Ukraine brigades are currently running about 3300 personnel, not sure what the on paper size is for Russia.
 
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lots of armies have greater casualties defending rather than attacking due to the factors I’d firepower and initiative.
clinging onto attackers loose 3:1 or 5:1 just isn’t true.
1:1 or less for attackers to defenders losses in a closer to the true figures. You cannot attack without pummelling the defenders first.
Failed attacks…. anyone’s guess.
They normally even out in the end.
Which is what you don’t want to hear.
 
Custor said:
lots of armies have greater casualties defending rather than attacking due to the factors I’d firepower and initiative.
clinging onto attackers loose 3:1 or 5:1 just isn’t true.
1:1 or less for attackers to defenders losses in a closer to the true figures. You cannot attack without pummelling the defenders first.
Failed attacks…. anyone’s guess.
They normally even out in the end.
Which is what you don’t want to hear.
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What a load of ****
 
The Gulf war … you might if heard of it. Did d superior firepower fierce projection overwhelm the Iraqis or did we fall back on outnumbering then 3:1?
Have a think and don’t sulk.

If we did it… could other armies do it to… could it be a normal thing?

I mean I’m assuming that poster don’t think we took three times the Iraqi casualties as we attacked?
That’d ******* stupid.
 
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Custor said:
The Gulf war … you might if heard of it. Did d superior firepower fierce projection overwhelm the Iraqis or did we fall back on outnumbering then 3:1?
Have a think and don’t sulk.
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I was in the Gulf War genius! You are still ignored but I will pop in to challenge your **** from time to time when I see rubbish like this!

Remember how well pummelling the opposition worked in WW1?
 
Custor said:
lots of armies have greater casualties defending rather than attacking due to the factors I’d firepower and initiative.
clinging onto attackers loose 3:1 or 5:1 just isn’t true.
1:1 or less for attackers to defenders losses in a closer to the true figures. You cannot attack without pummelling the defenders first.
Failed attacks…. anyone’s guess.
They normally even out in the end.
Which is what you don’t want to hear.
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And for attackers who are poorly equipped, without armor or air support or leadership, out in the open across ground already targetted by artillery (and observed by drones)?
 
Blueball said:
I was in the Gulf War genius! You are still ignored but I will pop in to challenge your **** from time to time when I see rubbish like this!

Remember how well pummelling the opposition worked in WW1?
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somme. Germans had more casualties than the Brits despite the Brits attacking….and it being kinder garden as how **** we were at attacking.
 
ChrisLX200 said:
And for attackers who are poorly equipped, without armor or air support or leadership, out in the open across ground already targetted by artillery (and observed by drones)?
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They get shafted.
It depends how granular you want to be. Each local some poor sod gets toasted.
You don’t attack unlsss you have gained superiority On firepower or you’re dead within 29 yards if your trenches.
However generals are often not that daft…despite the press. Major offensives dint go in without mushing the enemy first.
If they do…pity the poor sods going forward.
 
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Custor said:
The Gulf war … you might if heard of it. Did d superior firepower fierce projection overwhelm the Iraqis or did we fall back on outnumbering then 3:1?
Have a think and don’t sulk.

If we did it… could other armies do it to… could it be a normal thing?
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There was a purposeful huge mismatch on skill, experience and technology in the Gulf War. It dosnt detract from doctrine here though, and simple straight forward western doctrine, likely doctrine that Ukraine has adopted and doctrine that is completely foreign to Russia. Yes their are caveats and variations to that rule. However we generally plan our COA's off a 3:1 ratio at a minimum. otherwise we are theoretically throwing bodies to the grinder. Just as Russia are.
 
steve45 said:
There was a purposeful huge mismatch on skill, experience and technology in the Gulf War. It dosnt detract from doctrine here though, and simple straight forward western doctrine, likely doctrine that Ukraine has adopted and doctrine that is completely foreign to Russia. Yes their are caveats and variations to that rule. However we generally plan our COA's off a 3:1 ratio at a minimum. otherwise we are theoretically throwing bodies to the grinder. Just as Russia are.
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Correct. The only time I can remember an exception to that was Goose Green. Hell of a job by the Paras
 
Blueball said:
Correct. The only time I can remember an exception to that was Goose Green. Hell of a job by the Paras
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Christ. I might if said fire factors are more important than pure numbers.
It’s ok if ir applies to Paras beating the Argies but is toxic to any other scenario.
Only allowed when you bring it up. **** Keep it civil ****
 
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