Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

[Custor]

There was a purposeful huge mismatch on skill, experience and technology in the Gulf War. It dosnt detract from doctrine here though, and simple straight forward western doctrine, likely doctrine that Ukraine has adopted and doctrine that is completely foreign to Russia. Yes their are caveats and variations to that rule. However we generally plan our COA's off a 3:1 ratio at a minimum. otherwise we are theoretically throwing bodies to the grinder. Just as Russia are.

Lots of mis match in skill all through history. So as a concept 3:1 isn’t a rule for manpower? Correct or not?
It’s the ability to bring death that’s inportant in whatever means. Musket, sword, rifle, lmg. Shell, bomb. Drone.

Armies dont attack until they are able to bring the power. If they do they get wasted.

 

[Custor]

You don't even know what day it is! Answer my question!

What Q?
Edit
You can’t be arsed to state it.
It’s so obvious it beneath you. Ok.

 

[Blueball]

What Q?

#Facepalm!

 

[steve45]

So as a concept 3:1 isn’t a rule for manpower? Correct or not?

Not, that's exactly a rule we work to when we are planning operations as a minimum. From a tactical level upwards. To distill this down. You can factor in advantages of firepower and such. However you want to work off a plan that if all **** hits the fan that you have the forces to achieve the mission.

 

[Mrwong]

I'd love to believe that was genuine.

I like a refund.

 

[Grim5]

Rumour is that all discussions about Wagner on Russian TV is now banned.

The Kremlin liked the idea of taking prisoners but now the Kremlin will do it itself, no more for Wagner. Russia is apparently handing out pardons to prisoners and then as they exit the prison they get put in a bus and get given their conscription notice and sent to ukraine.

Soon Russian police will have to start arresting and putting people in prison for minor things just so they can be sent to Ukraine

 

[Grim5]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1624472856506638336

 

[Grim5]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1624894518330855427

 

[Allnamestaken]

Armchair generals lol.

We got one right here in the forum arguing with two current/former service members who have served in multiple modern conflicts, telling them they are wrong.


Lmao.

 

[Scougar]

People have the right to hold opinions with which you disagree.

Of course. Doesn't stop them being idiots.

 

[Harlequin]

somme. Germans had more casualties than the Brits despite the Brits attacking….and it being kinder garden as how **** we were at attacking.

You are very aware it wasnt *only* the British at the Battle of the Somme on the side of the entente? Also, said forces outnumbered the Germans by 3:1.

 

[Freakbro]

There was a purposeful huge mismatch on skill, experience and technology in the Gulf War. It dosnt detract from doctrine here though, and simple straight forward western doctrine, likely doctrine that Ukraine has adopted and doctrine that is completely foreign to Russia. Yes their are caveats and variations to that rule. However we generally plan our COA's off a 3:1 ratio at a minimum. otherwise we are theoretically throwing bodies to the grinder. Just as Russia are.

There was a discussion about the Gulf War and troop numbers, equipment superiority etc earlier in the thread too.

Something that doesn't seem to get mentioned is the terrain. That also made a huge difference with our advantage iirc. Flat terrain with little cover in a desert gave our superior technology an even greater advantage over the Iraqis.

One of the reasons why superior forces have never managed to take Afghanistan through history, the terrain gives a massive advantage to the defenders.

 

[Sankari]

Ronald Reagan was an actor who played along side a monkey, your point is?

My point is that's the only part they got right, and it's irrelevant because it has no bearing on Zelensky's capacity to serve as president.

 

[Mr Jack]

Zekensky used to be a comedian and an actor.

And a good one at that: seriously track down Servant of the People. It's worth your time.

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

People have the right to hold opinions with which you disagree.

Opinions are never an issue, whilst something is unknown

Before we knew the earth orbited the sun it was completely valid to hold the opinion that the sun orbited the earth.
Once we found out for sure it didn't, and that the earth orbited the sun anyone who held the opposite view and refused to budge from the incorrect position was an idiot.

What has happened with the rise in social media is that its become acceptable to carry on promoting the incorrect view to something that is factual.
Some people really seem to struggle with this now. "I am allowed my views", well you are but don't get all sulky when someone points out your an idiot for denying facts.
What was the term that brewed up during Brexit, "fact resistant individuals" ?

 

[Mrwong]

My point is that's the only part they got right, and it's irrelevant because it has no bearing on Zelensky's capacity to serve as president.

There was a discussion about the Gulf War and troop numbers, equipment superiority etc earlier in the thread too.

Something that doesn't seem to get mentioned is the terrain. That also made a huge difference with our advantage iirc. Flat terrain with little cover in a desert gave our superior technology an even greater advantage over the Iraqis.

One of the reasons why superior forces have never managed to take Afghanistan through history, the terrain gives a massive advantage to the defenders.

The Russians and Chinese,
were feeding the Afghans weapons and intel.

 

[Freakbro]

People have the right to hold opinions with which you disagree.

Opinions are never an issue, whilst something is unknown

Before we knew the earth orbited the sun it was completely valid to hold the opinion that the sun orbited the earth.
Once we found out for sure it didn't, and that the earth orbited the sun anyone who held the opposite view and refused to budge from the incorrect position was an idiot.

What has happened with the rise in social media is that its become acceptable to carry on promoting the incorrect view to something that is factual.
Some people really seem to struggle with this now. "I am allowed my views", well you are but don't get all sulky when someone points out your an idiot for denying facts.
What was the term that brewed up during Brexit, "fact resistant individuals" ?

This always sums it up well for me.

No, you’re not entitled to your opinion

Every year, I try to do at least two things with my students at least once. First, I make a point of addressing them as “philosophers” – a bit cheesy, but hopefully it encourages active learning. Secondly…

theconversation.com

I’m sure you’ve heard the expression ‘everyone is entitled to their opinion.’ Perhaps you’ve even said it yourself, maybe to head off an argument or bring one to a close. Well, as soon as you walk into this room, it’s no longer true. You are not entitled to your opinion. You are only entitled to what you can argue for.”

A bit harsh? Perhaps, but philosophy teachers owe it to our students to teach them how to construct and defend an argument – and to recognize when a belief has become indefensible.

The problem with “I’m entitled to my opinion” is that, all too often, it’s used to shelter beliefs that should have been abandoned. It becomes shorthand for “I can say or think whatever I like” – and by extension, continuing to argue is somehow disrespectful. And this attitude feeds, I suggest, into the false equivalence between experts and non-experts that is an increasingly pernicious feature of our public discourse.

 

[alec]

What was the term that brewed up during Brexit, "fact resistant individuals" ?

If you put quotes differently, "fact" resistant individuals, that would be closer to truth.

"Facts" on both sides of any argument tend to come from media. And it is not the same media it used to be. Have you noticed how few BBC/CNN/Reuters/AP reports come from actual front lines?
Everybody is happy retweeting bravado fed by ukranian propaganda. And banning any other opinion with a stamp "russian propaganda".

Sometimes the "fact resistance" population gets it right. Whenever media wants you to believe something really hard, they are lying
And admittedly, this reaction throws people into opposite, sometimes really crazy views. But these are only a reaction.

 

[steve45]

The Russians and Chinese,
were feeding the Afghans weapons and intel.

Whilst I dont doubt there they might have had some influence in the background especially from a Chinese perspective, who no doubt were interested in gaining influence to exploit mineral wealth. The main threat/influence at least in my time over there was from Iran/Pakistan. You have to remember that Afghans held a lot of resentment and distrust for Russia. I dont know if that still held true toward the end of our time there, or a simple case of enemy of my enemy etc.

Anyway thats again straying from the topic of this thread,

 

[Mrwong]

Whilst I dont doubt there they might have had some influence in the background especially from a Chinese perspective, who no doubt were interested in gaining influence to exploit mineral wealth. The main threat/influence at least in my time over there was from Iran/Pakistan. You have to remember that Afghans held a lot of resentment and distrust for Russia. I dont know if that still held true toward the end of our time there, or a simple case of enemy of my enemy etc.

Anyway thats again straying from the topic of this thread,

No doubt they provided weapons and other battle equipment.

The Cold War was never over, Ukraine is the Cold War.

The western politicians are pretty dumb or pretend to be.

We will see a terrific expansion of weapon development by the west. Arms race 3.1.

The lines are draw clearly now, hence no aid for Syria, let the Russians provide aid. We are going to see a completely different world compared to the last 100 years.

High tech industry shifting back to west, reduction of university subjects thst eastern students are allowed to access in the west.

Opening up Education and tech to others has been the biggest mistake the west has made.

From a tactical point the west has been overrun by the east.