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peterwalkley said:
A win-win frankly. Pakistan needs the hard currency right now and UA can use them. Also, anything, no matter how small, to de-escalate their feuding with India is a bonus.



The assad regime was insisting all shipments go via their control - so they get to pick and choose who nicks stuff and which civilians get the aid after the thieves have filled their boots.
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Honestly, Pakistan should get it's self together, and resolve the issues with India from the great divide, and go in against the common enemy of China. (not 'go in'.. I just mean support each other as such).
 
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ubersonic said:
People can have opinions about factual matters, but as they are factual matters not subjective matters a differing explanation is not an opinion it is false information.
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And so you call them out, so people know they are liars. But don't mistake someone stating something you do not believe with that thing not being true. You need actual evidence.
 
Uther said:
I just hope, once the dust settles, that governments remember who sided with who and act accordingly when chucking money around.
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Why wait for the dust to settle? The two things the west should be doing at the minute which they don’t seems to be are:
1) piling huge amounts of pressure and sanctions etc if necessary on those countries supporting Russia either actively like Iran or passively buy buying oil and arms like India
2) expensing all possible energy to get information into Russia, the best chance of ending the war is a change in the mood of the Russian people they need to know what they husbands and sons are dying for.

Neither are easy but both could make a massive difference.
 
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a1ex2001 said:
The Russian offensive also seems to mainly consist of sacrificing huge numbers of raw recruits and Mercenaries in direct assaults on Ukrainian positions rather than anything sophisticated or tactically ingenious so there isn’t really much to say. The real question is how high will the body bags have to be stacked before the Russian people start to get really restless? I try and take all the casualty figures with a pinch of salt but they make pretty grim reading for Russia right now.
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Loss of life means very little to Russians, life is horrible there so if you die…so what?
 
Jester* said:
Some good insights into the subject of Western jets for Ukraine.

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Which NATO Fighter is Best for Ukraine?

Dr. Justin Bronk returns to the channel for a livestream discussion about which NATO fighter best suits the wartime needs of Ukraine against the Russians.Rea...
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I bet even phantoms (F4's) can knock out the entire Russian airforce and bring havoc to the ground forces. Anyway, F16's are the best value for money out there, plenty of them in Europe too.
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
I bet even phantoms (F4's) can knock out the entire Russian airforce and bring havoc to the ground forces.
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That's taking it perhaps a little too far, F-4s would be a significant downgrade over what Ukraine currently have, if we were going to roll the clock back that far we would be better off pressuring Romania to send them MiG-21and maybe trying to get India to supply new missiles, though it's unlikely they would go against Russia.
 
ubersonic said:
That's taking it perhaps a little too far, F-4s would be a significant downgrade over what Ukraine currently have, if we were going to roll the clock back that far we would be better off pressuring Romania to send them MiG-21and maybe trying to get India to supply new missiles, though it's unlikely they would go against Russia.
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F4-E's are still an awesome kit of fighter, Japan, Greece, Turkey S.Korea still use them. They have upgraded avionics-electronics and can fire AIM-120's, also a great bomber. It could do wonders for the Ukranians, they must be easier to train the crews too since its basic and not that advanced as a F16-30 and above.
 
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