Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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@Grim5 Video has swearing in the music.
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Must have spuds the size of footballs
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That would be interesting. Having troops from a foreign nation already there is something happened.
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I didn’t say we didn’t I said we shouldn’t dehumanising people leads to doing the same things for which we condemn others. The majority of people in Russia or any other country are no different to the rest of us they are all just trying to live there lives, make end meet and enjoy what they can.
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Why considering? Get it done. Use all that frozen Russian money to pay for more arms as well.
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Putin travels in armored trains over alleged fears he will be shot
The Russian leader has taken to the railways as he is reportedly scared of being tracked and shot out of the sky when flying. Despite precautions for his safety, Putin reportedly remains anxious.
Chairman of Joint Chiefs Mark Milley says Russia has LOST the war
Russia has already 'lost strategically, operationally, and tactically' as the anniversary of their invasion of Ukraine approaches, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley said in Brussels.
The US still has quite the stockpile though; not an amazing amount but total number of atacms in stock is greater than the combined number of atacms fired in the gulf, Iraq and Afghanistan wars. The US could send Ukraine a few hundred missiles if they really wanted to; after all the US is still selling them - just a few weeks ago they made a new multi billion dollar deal to send not just HIMARS launchers but also some Atacms missiles to a nato country
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Obviously limits to what I know about that is going on behind the scenes but I think it is crazy how slow the West is to responding defensively to this situation including in that ramping up ammo production. I could kind of understand it a few months ago when there was some hope this would all blow over once the Russian forces got a bloody nose but it looks like we are in for the long haul now and this situation is only going to deteriorate.
The more we fall back on the nuclear deterrent the higher the chances it comes to them actually being used IMO.
I don't know how many more times the lesson needs reinforcing - a strong and prepared West, a well supplied Ukraine, is the best possible chance for peace in Europe our time - Putin smelt weakness and went for the jugular and will do it again - Russia is far from a spent force yet.
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My thoughts are that from a simple cost benefit analysis point of view, the simplest, cheapest and most sensible option, is to supply the hell out of Ukraine, F16s, tanks, long range missiles - the whole nine yards.
For Russia to be defeated in Ukraine, by Ukraine is by far the best possible outcome for all of us. It’s going to be cheaper, quicker, safer and better for the world - for this to be resolved on Ukrainian soil.
I’m worried about a situation where western governments become paralysed and locked in a cycle of procrastination, meanwhile Russia starts to turn the tide and make gains.
If Ukraine lose and are overrun, that is going to be a a thousand times worse for the west and the former eastern bloc countries. It’s going to plunge us into a new era of uncertainty, the costs of dealing with it will spiral - if it can be dealt with at all, and it will all have happened because the west relied on half measures, or were two slow or couldn’t agree.
For Russia to be defeated in Ukraine, by Ukraine is by far the best possible outcome for all of us. It’s going to be cheaper, quicker, safer and better for the world - for this to be resolved on Ukrainian soil.
I’m worried about a situation where western governments become paralysed and locked in a cycle of procrastination, meanwhile Russia starts to turn the tide and make gains.
If Ukraine lose and are overrun, that is going to be a a thousand times worse for the west and the former eastern bloc countries. It’s going to plunge us into a new era of uncertainty, the costs of dealing with it will spiral - if it can be dealt with at all, and it will all have happened because the west relied on half measures, or were two slow or couldn’t agree.
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My thoughts are, if it takes UKR, it would eventually then take Georgia, Moldova etc.
Unfortunately western politicians can't see past a few months in advance and to me are still clinging on to Russia just....giving up.
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This war isnt going to end and unfortunately Putin isnt going to end it or come to the democracy table anytime soon, which means we have to go all in to eventually stop the needless deaths on both sides.
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Do you mean diplomacy (to negotiate), or did you want to use democracy in that sentence?
*Russian-Installed Kharkiv Region Official: Russia Planning to Seize Back All Settlements in Kharkiv Region It Surrendered to Ukraine Last Year
EU’s von Der Leyen: Suggestion 10th Tranche of Sanctions Against Russia With Trade Bans
- Suggesting Sanctions on Electronic Components Against Russia That Could Deal With Items Such As Drones
- Suggesting Sanctions Targeting Iran As Well Regarding Role in Russia/Ukraine War
- Proposing a Tenth Package of Measures. With New Trade Bans and Technology Export Controls to Russia. This Package Is Worth a Total of EUR 11 Billion.
*Finland Defense Minister: Better for All NATO Countries if Sweden and Finland Join Alliance Together
*Ukraine Says It Has Repelled Some Attacks in Luhansk Region but Situation in the Region Remains Difficult
*Governor of Ukraine’s Luhansk Region: Russians Are Not Pushing Ukrainian Forces out of Luhansk Region
Swiss Federal Council: Federal Office of Justice Working Group Concluded That the Confiscation of Private Russian Assets Would Undermine the Federal Constitution and the Prevailing Legal Order
- Support for Ukraine Will Continue, Independent of the Discussions on Frozen Assets
German Vice Chancellor: Cannot Understand Why Switzerland Won’t Provide Gepard Tank Ammunition - Die Zeit
- Delivery of German Leopard Tanks “a Bit Too Late”, Time Running Out Ahead of Expected Russian Offensive
https://www.zeit.de/2023/08/robert-habeck-ukraine-waffenlieferung-energiewende
UK Defence Minister Wallace: Fighter Jets Require a Very Substantial Pit Crew
- We Can Help Ukraine Sooner by Delivering the Effects They Need on the Battleground Rather Than Specific Platforms
- We Are Training Ukraine to Fight in a Western Way That Is Not As Ammunition Heavy
https://www.reuters.com/article/ukr...her-than-with-jets-wallace-says-idUSS8N326012
NATO’s Stoltenberg: New Pledges by NATO Countries for Ukraine Include Heavy Weapons and Military Training
- NATO Countries to Step Up Support for Bosnia, Moldova and Georgia
- NATO to Coordinate Improvements in Protection of Critical Under Sea Infrastructure
- NATO Countries Are Increasing Production of 155mm Artillery Rounds
- NATO Countries Need to Ramp Up Production Even Further
- For Turkey to Decide if They Ratify Both or Only One Application for NATO Membership
- I Urge Turkey to Ratify Both at Once
- Sequencing Not the Most Important Thing, Important Is That Sweden and Finland Become Members As Soon As Possible
- No Conclusions yet on New Pledge for Defense Spending by NATO Allies
- Obvious That We Need to Spend More
- Commitment Should Be to Spend a Minimum of 2% of GDP
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/events_67375.htm
*Ukrainian Defence Minister Reznikov Says Zelenskiy Asked Him to Stay in Post, Expects to Remain in Months to Come
*Germany to Lift Defense Spending by Up to €10 Billion Next Year - Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...efense-spending-by-up-to-10-billion-next-year
UK Ministry of Defence: Ukraine to Receive Multi-Million Pound Capability Boost From International Fund
- UK, the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Along With Iceland and Lithuania, Have Contributed Total of More Than £520M to Fund
- First Package Will Include Artillery Ammunition, Maritime Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance, and Spare Parts for Equipment
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...ound-capability-boost-from-international-fund
EU’s von Der Leyen: Suggestion 10th Tranche of Sanctions Against Russia With Trade Bans
- Suggesting Sanctions on Electronic Components Against Russia That Could Deal With Items Such As Drones
- Suggesting Sanctions Targeting Iran As Well Regarding Role in Russia/Ukraine War
- Proposing a Tenth Package of Measures. With New Trade Bans and Technology Export Controls to Russia. This Package Is Worth a Total of EUR 11 Billion.
*Finland Defense Minister: Better for All NATO Countries if Sweden and Finland Join Alliance Together
*Ukraine Says It Has Repelled Some Attacks in Luhansk Region but Situation in the Region Remains Difficult
*Governor of Ukraine’s Luhansk Region: Russians Are Not Pushing Ukrainian Forces out of Luhansk Region
Swiss Federal Council: Federal Office of Justice Working Group Concluded That the Confiscation of Private Russian Assets Would Undermine the Federal Constitution and the Prevailing Legal Order
- Support for Ukraine Will Continue, Independent of the Discussions on Frozen Assets
German Vice Chancellor: Cannot Understand Why Switzerland Won’t Provide Gepard Tank Ammunition - Die Zeit
- Delivery of German Leopard Tanks “a Bit Too Late”, Time Running Out Ahead of Expected Russian Offensive
https://www.zeit.de/2023/08/robert-habeck-ukraine-waffenlieferung-energiewende
UK Defence Minister Wallace: Fighter Jets Require a Very Substantial Pit Crew
- We Can Help Ukraine Sooner by Delivering the Effects They Need on the Battleground Rather Than Specific Platforms
- We Are Training Ukraine to Fight in a Western Way That Is Not As Ammunition Heavy
https://www.reuters.com/article/ukr...her-than-with-jets-wallace-says-idUSS8N326012
NATO’s Stoltenberg: New Pledges by NATO Countries for Ukraine Include Heavy Weapons and Military Training
- NATO Countries to Step Up Support for Bosnia, Moldova and Georgia
- NATO to Coordinate Improvements in Protection of Critical Under Sea Infrastructure
- NATO Countries Are Increasing Production of 155mm Artillery Rounds
- NATO Countries Need to Ramp Up Production Even Further
- For Turkey to Decide if They Ratify Both or Only One Application for NATO Membership
- I Urge Turkey to Ratify Both at Once
- Sequencing Not the Most Important Thing, Important Is That Sweden and Finland Become Members As Soon As Possible
- No Conclusions yet on New Pledge for Defense Spending by NATO Allies
- Obvious That We Need to Spend More
- Commitment Should Be to Spend a Minimum of 2% of GDP
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/events_67375.htm
*Ukrainian Defence Minister Reznikov Says Zelenskiy Asked Him to Stay in Post, Expects to Remain in Months to Come
*Germany to Lift Defense Spending by Up to €10 Billion Next Year - Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...efense-spending-by-up-to-10-billion-next-year
UK Ministry of Defence: Ukraine to Receive Multi-Million Pound Capability Boost From International Fund
- UK, the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Along With Iceland and Lithuania, Have Contributed Total of More Than £520M to Fund
- First Package Will Include Artillery Ammunition, Maritime Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance, and Spare Parts for Equipment
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...ound-capability-boost-from-international-fund
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