Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Actually I can kind of see 97% if you take it in the context of pre-war - the forces they've thrown at Ukraine so far would represent about 97% of the likely actual state of Russia's active forces before the war - but that ignores how Russia has gone about this war.

In the pre-war years for instance Russia had an estimated 2700-3500 active tanks in service - they've lost an estimated 3200-3300 in Ukraine - but that ignores that they put large amount of tanks back into service for this war and have been scraping T-60s together, etc. the actual depletion of the physical pre-war tanks in service is likely around again 40-50%.

EDIT: Another way to look at it - it was estimated they had 850,000 pre-war troops - they've got approx. 326,000 personnel active in Ukraine, 140,000+ dead and 400,000 plus wounded (some who will still be actively fighting in Ukraine). But those numbers don't directly deplete from their pre-war troops.
 
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Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
What was the main differentiator, angle, speed etc or something else?
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Speed. firing range and what it actually looked like on the radar screen were the main indicators. There is always a lot of clutter on the screen, where it picks up a lot of benign harmless objects, from flocks of birds to normal civilian air traffic and even some times cars/trucks moving on the horizon, you learn the tell tale signatures. Indirect Fire(IDF) is no different, each had their own signature trace that an experienced operator could spot sometimes prior to the system itself catagorising it as a track. That does however depend on the operator being vigilent and actually monitoring the system rather than waiting for an alert.
 
Russians complaining that Europe didn't freeze without Russian gas

Ironically it's the exact opposite of what they were claiming just a few weeks ago - that Europe is freezing and in fact this exact Russian show on a number of occasions put up fake interviews with Russian citizens in various EU countries and during these interviews they dressed in polar clothing and claimed to be freezing with no gas to cook or heat

 
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Russian television propaganda....... watching that stuff makes your head hurt trying to make sense of nonsense they come out with.

The situation around Bakhmut is a bit mixed, the centre has stalled, around the north the Russians are pushing up one of the main roads and in the south Ukraine appears to have had some minor success in pushing the Russians back.
 
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Russia favours that kind of approach - quite often expending men and equipment through recon by combat type missions - in Soviet times it would have been followed up by intense artillery - these days not quite the same capability there.
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Not sure if these were genuine decoys, one of the Ukrainian telegram channels was reporting these as observation balloons.
 
Is interesting to look back at the "news".
When this began the invasion was conscripts and trainees and poorly equipped russians suffering huge losses would be over as soon as it began.
Then it turned into these Russians are elite rapists and genocidal maniacs killing women and children after raping them of course.
We also had intercepted phone calls of Russian women advising their men how best to rape women and children.
Then we had reports that russia is losing all its aircraft and choppers. And of course ships in the sea.
one event turned out to be a merchant ship on fire.
Then Russians were being forced into service and fleeing and deserting.
Then Russians had lost nearly all or most of their tanks and armour.
And now Russia has lost half its armour or more and 97% of the Russia armed forces is in Ukraine?
I do not doubt all of this I doubt a fair bit of it but you can go off and google away is interesting the news we have had.
Armchair generals Russia would be done in a month and here we are....
The thing for me that still intrigues me totally is no one no one is trying to stop this.
So no one in the west supports ending ukraine deaths.
We all support a total fight to the end or nothing of the ukranian people?
Way to go our support for the people!!!
We are with you until you are all dead?
Why do we have a WW2 Japanese all or nothing to the death style stance as long as we are making money reloading arms? Why if we are the good guys are we not trying to end this war and save the people?
And if the reason is because Putin bad etc etc then why are we not stepping forward and going full on WW3 and putin if you pardon the pun putin an end to it all?
 
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Rroff said:
I was wondering how far into his post it would take to get to Ukraine should roll over and let Russia win...



Nothing in your post suggests you give a flying about the wellbeing of the Ukrainian people...
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Interesting.
Giving a flying about the wellbeing would be ending this war and stopping it progressing.
But you cannot do that with zero tolerance and zero admission regards the east and the Donbass.
And now you are going throw history links. And more. And therefore I have no consideration at all for the welfare of peace and end to conflict.
So my point remains lets continue killing ukraine people and meat sponging them agaist russian reinforcements faced against NATO backup!!!
But ukrainians keep dying right!!? :D
Yeeeeah and we make money on re arming them and we lose no NATO troops? Yeaaah!
In Yugoslavia it took them less than a week to realise NATO was selling them out to a war they could not fight. ;)

Russia cannot win unless we go nuclear then watch the West care nothing about Ukraine and surrender an irradiated Donbass
 
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Interesting.
Giving a flying about the wellbeing would be ending this war and stopping it progressing.
But you cannot do that with zero tolerance and zero admission regards the east and the Donbass.
And now you are going throw history links. And more. And therefore I have no consideration at all for the welfare of peace and end to conflict.
So my point remains lets continue killing ukraine people and meat sponging them agaist russian reinforcements faced against NATO backup!!!
But ukrainians keep dying right!!? :D
Yeeeeah and we make money on re arming them and we lose no NATO troops? Yeaaah!
In Yugoslavia it took them less than a week to realise NATO was selling them out to a war they could not fight. ;)

Russia cannot win unless we go nuclear then watch the West care nothing about Ukraine and surrender an irradiated Donbass
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Russia can end this war and stop its progress any time they want. What you are advocating for does not bring peace or the end of misery.

EDIT: For that matter why do you care nothing for Russian lives? the longer Putin keeps this war going the more Russian men, and to a lesser degree women, are being thrown to the slaughter for no real reason.
 
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