Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Its quite likely they are referring to the storm shadow missile

It's also likely the missile needs to be launched from a Typhoon jet which the British will also need to provide

I dunno. They previously managed to bodge together a launcher for Brimstone that they could slap on the back of a Toyota Hilux within a matter of days. Would fitting the rocket booster from say, a Harpoon work to make Storm Shadow work as a surface launched missile, as opposed to an exclusively air-launched one as it is now?
 
I believe we do also have ATACMs.

Whilst I could not say for certain, I dont think we do. Although I'm sure @woppy101 could probably answer that.
I know we are planning to have the replacement, the Precision Strike Missile
Steve is right we never got the ATACM’s for the MLRS in our regiments, too expensive and of limited use for the warfare we trained for, we used the Bomblet and Scatmin before the switch to GMLRS in the late 2000s, we did Exercise with how to use them(skills and drills) in fort Sill Oklahoma when I was there, but even the yanks don’t live fire with them due to cost.
 
Defend themselves by invading, can't make it up...

Actually, can make it up apparently!
Well, if you follow the official Russian propaganda, then Ukraine is Russia and so they are defending themselves against the Ukrainian nationalists.
This is of course complete testicles as we all know. But you can kind of follow the logic I guess.
 
Well, if you follow the official Russian propaganda, then Ukraine is Russia and so they are defending themselves against the Ukrainian nationalists.
This is of course complete testicles as we all know. But you can kind of follow the logic I guess.

Yeah its what I really don't get when I see Russian supporters in this thread. Its all nothing but a Putin Land grab so he can claim the oil/gas resources around crimea and donbass area and control the worlds bread basket and then hold Africa to ransom. None of this has anything to do Russian security because there is no threat to Russia, nor china/Iran/North Korea because no one in the western world wants to touch those ****hole of a places. Just a bunch of fat old greedy men wanting more.
 
Russia is defending itself for impending NATO or US aggression parking missilie shields and defences and bases on NATO soil and surrounding Russia.

Russia I think have 2 bases outsides of their territory. It might be 3.
Again you are welcome to defend americas global domination and trillion dollar military budget as non aggressive.

The USA has 200 and more.
Remember the USA are already in disagreement with what China does with its south China sea. Because clearly the USA have the rights to the world.
Again you are clear to tell me China and the south China sea extends beyond their borders and are tyrants for disputing them but forget to tell me about the US bases all over the world.

I am amused at a post that reflected Iraqis welcome the US invasion to free them from Saddam who had no weapons of mass destruction at all.
Which we knew because we supplied all his weapons for him to fight the Iran war that he failed so the US took his oil instead. Saddam was firmly with sunni. SO of course the Shiite would have been happy to support the invasion. However it never went too well.


This is all history now you can look it up.
Now we have politicians and some idiots working out we can probably take another war. That will be nuclear. Russia will most likely lose but we will still fail and not have the resource to police and overcome their region.
Hopefully unlikely as China is a huge problem as well and all western powers combined do not have enough people to police them and supress them.

Which is still my intrigue and wonder and why why why why? Are we not prepared to give Russia the Donbass which they mostly had already. And give them a win they can withdraw from.
But now we want to supply jets which pushes further that Russia is now in a defacto state of war with Nato suppliers.

Again what I brought up in earlier posts russians are inept, terrible equipment, will not last a month and so on. Here we are one year of hell down the line.

You can call me some russian supporter or whatever my point is to stop everyone dying! And to question those profiting from the business of reloading and rearming.

Supplying NATO aircraft and tanks only pushes russia toward opening up to a war. So while you may say yes yes yes russia should back off retreat and say sorry. Really? You really think to the point of going to all out war or even nuclear confilct that is the correct idea?
Is it not weird that politicians and even media and even OCUK forums are starting to think thats a good idea?

Just saying. Just saying.
 
Supplying NATO aircraft and tanks only pushes russia toward opening up to a war. So while you may say yes yes yes russia should back off retreat and say sorry. Really? You really think to the point of going to all out war or even nuclear confilct that is the correct idea?
Is it not weird that politicians and even media and even OCUK forums are starting to think thats a good idea?

Just saying. Just saying.





What is NOT a good idea is let Russia gain more landmass by attacking other countries. If nothing's done now Ukraine will not be the last. You need to consider we are now dealing with a dictator, Putin walking in Hitlers footsteps.

With Hitler, at the very start of WWII days it was a huge mistake giving him some room to maneuver and let him work as he liked.


 
Russia is defending itself for impending NATO or US aggression parking missilie shields and defences and bases on NATO soil and surrounding Russia.

That's nonsense.

Russia has invaded another country with the objective of colonising it and absorbing it into the Russian empire. As a first step. Under the rule of a dictator who wants to expand the Russian empire to a much larger extent. This has, unsurprisingly, resulted in Russia being perceived as a dangerous aggressor (because it is). Prior to that, all countries were willing to (and did) trade with Russia as a normal country. Now Russia has turned itself into the avowed enemy of half the world, severely damaged its economy and ruined its international standing. Russia has massively increased the risk to Russia.

All for a completely fictional claim of possible hypothetical aggression at some unknown point in the future.

It's a bloody silly argument. It's the flimsiest facade of propaganda. It might work for the poor sods living under Putin's regime who are deliberately kept ignorant and fed lies, but it's useless against anyone who isn't that deeply deceived.

You can call me some russian supporter or whatever my point is to stop everyone dying! And to question those profiting from the business of reloading and rearming.

That's an obvious lie. You support a brutal dictator and their regime. A regime that routinely kills anyone who isn't completely obedient. Both within Russia and outside it. A regime that's openly imperialist and colonial in the most extreme, most brutal way. A regime that routinely kills any of its own people who have fallen out of favour. A regime that openly admires previous, similar dictators responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people.

Surrendering to that regime won't stop everyone dying. It will just make it easier for the regime to kill people. And it will. The last time a Russian dictator conquered Ukraine they instigated a genocide that killed 10% of the entire population of Ukraine. Along with the usual brutal colonialism tactics of forced displacement, resettlement by the regime-approved ethnic group and routine violent oppression. Putin admires that dictator and there's no reason to think that the same thing wouldn't result if Ukraine was conquered by Russia again.

And what next? You're insane if you think Putin's regime would stop there by choice. Why would it?

Your point is to get many more people killed. Anything to serve the interests of the elite few at the pinnacle of the regime you support. Do you think they'll care for you? They won't. You'd "fall out of a window" as easily as anyone else once you're no longer useful to them.


Supplying NATO aircraft and tanks only pushes russia toward opening up to a war.

Russia has already opened up a war. You're blatantly lying. The choice that Russia has imposed on us is to either help Ukraine stop the Russian regime in Ukraine or be easy victims ourselves later.

So while you may say yes yes yes russia should back off retreat and say sorry. Really? You really think to the point of going to all out war or even nuclear confilct that is the correct idea?
Is it not weird that politicians and even media and even OCUK forums are starting to think thats a good idea?

Just saying. Just saying.

You're just lying and spewing propaganda in favour of the brutal regime that started this war. Go join the mercenaries fighting for Russia and try to murder as many victims as possible. At least then you'd be honest. Show some integrity.
 
Russia is defending itself for impending NATO or US aggression parking missilie shields and defences and bases on NATO soil and surrounding Russia.

Evidence please. Also, how does attacking a non-NATO nation help Russia defend itself against alleged 'NATO aggression'?

If NATO has 'surrounded Russia', it should be obvious from this map:

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So... does Russia look 'surrounded by NATO' to you?
 
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Russia is defending itself for impending NATO or US aggression parking missilie shields and defences and bases on NATO soil and surrounding Russia.

Absolutely no one wants to start a war with Russia, not Europe, not NATO, not the US - the West is far too wrapped up in its self interest and [relatively] comfortable way of life to start a war with Russia none the less Russia having nukes. That is pure and utter delusion and if you are posting that seriously and autonomously you should be ashamed of yourself.
 
Lols absolute lols and quite frightening really that no one wants to think outside the box.
Just total absolute anti russia, anti everything.
So WW3 it is then. It will be russias fault of course. It will be all russias fault but we told you so.
Best of luck with that strategy.

Also fella posts a map which literally shows Russia surrounded by NATO.
 
Absolutely no one wants to start a war with Russia, not Europe, not NATO, not the US - the West is far too wrapped up in its self interest and [relatively] comfortable way of life to start a war with Russia none the less Russia having nukes. That is pure and utter delusion and if you are posting that seriously and autonomously you should be ashamed of yourself.
I get this so
We want to continue a war? Over another year? Killing civillians and soldiers? Using ukraine and russia as a meat grinder?
So what in the last year has Europe, the EU, the west, and NATO and the US done to stop this war?
 
Supplying NATO aircraft and tanks only pushes russia toward opening up to a war. So while you may say yes yes yes russia should back off retreat and say sorry. Really? You really think to the point of going to all out war or even nuclear confilct that is the correct idea?
Is it not weird that politicians and even media and even OCUK forums are starting to think thats a good idea?

So what is your alternative? - as Russia has showed repeatedly that it will exploit what it perceives to be weakness and that way is assuredly to show to Russia weakness - that doesn't save lives, that doesn't deter conflict.

I get this so
We want to continue a war? Over another year? Killing civillians and soldiers? Using ukraine and russia as a meat grinder?
So what in the last year has Europe, the EU, the west, and NATO and the US done to stop this war?

Far too little to stop this war - only by making it far too costly for Russia in the short term is there any chance of stopping this war or anything close to a "good" outcome.
 
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