It is the reality of war.
Though in that respect if the OSINT channels are anything to go by Russia's build up includes quite a mix of regular and mercenary type forces, Chechens, etc.
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It is the reality of war.
Though in that respect if the OSINT channels are anything to go by Russia's build up includes quite a mix of regular and mercenary type forces, Chechens, etc.
I doubt mercs are operating S-400’s or AWACS
Maybe not but Wagner group regularly operates Pantsirs, etc.
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But Russia have said they are not going to attack, they alway's tell the truth.
Really interesting. Any recent images from Ukraine/Belarus/Russia?
Good common sense from our part.
All UK troops to withdraw from Ukraine as Russia could invade ‘at no notice’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...a-invasion-uk-troops-withdrawal-b2013668.html
It's not our fight, and the countries in the direct firing like i.e. Germany and France, don't seem that bothered.
I think the US is stirring this situation up by putting NATO equipment along the border of Russia, and also everytime Ukraine is mentioned the Americans keep talking about NATO. Ukraine isn't in NATO.
All UK troops to withdraw from Ukraine as Russia could invade ‘at no notice’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...a-invasion-uk-troops-withdrawal-b2013668.html
It's not our fight, and the countries in the direct firing like i.e. Germany and France, don't seem that bothered.
I think the US is stirring this situation up by putting NATO equipment along the border of Russia, and also everytime Ukraine is mentioned the Americans keep talking about NATO. Ukraine isn't in NATO.
Russia massing troops on Ukraine's boarder isn't "stirring things up"?
This is about the international community's ability to convince countries with nukes to give them up in exchange for security promises.
We are about to find out if those promises mean anything or if everyone knows we are full of **** going forward.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...6?shareToken=e7f55b0b76ff7d12765761d481a9cc5b
It does seem to be a lesson in why you need to keep your nuclear deterrent.
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Exactly why every country wants them. I hope Ukraine manages a huge amount of pain on Russians who enter, dirty bombs, the lot. **** every Russian whose ok with this. It’s sad that our leaders are in bed with them too, selling off London to them and buying their gas.
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And having deployable nukes gets you a seat at the UN Security Council = other countries listen when you speak.
Which is why Britain should never give up her independent nuclear weapons and the platforms that carry them.
Which is why Britain should never give up her independent nuclear weapons and the platforms that carry them.
Ukraine simply housed the nukes, they never controlled them. Much like US nukes held in Germany and Belgium etc.
Completely agree. One argument against Britain having an independent nuclear deterrrant is that they cost a lot of money and "will never be used". But I would argue they are being used every day.
There is a context though. Who is massing their military on the border first?
From what I can see its been NATO, likely pushed by the US as they are paying the most money.
I don't think Russia as any intention of invading the Ukraine. But this propaganda about "Russia will create a false flag" etc, is the perfect cover story for the US to start the fight and then say Russia started it.
Either way its not worth risking British lives. Nobody helped us when China took over Hong Kong way before the agreed time.
I honestly do not understand what US end game is quite frankly in all this situation.
All I see is that they are working hard to corner Russia into a situation where they are going to fall apart as a country - its matter of time.
That’s all great but is anyone considering that a cornered beast might just go screw it and go for it? Look at Putins comments lately, he’s borderline suicidal.
So what then? Do you really think USA will commit and put its homeland into direct path of nuclear strikes over buffer zones? Or they will perhaps just go ‘oh well’. Even if Russia takes whole of EU - that is still minimal threat to the USA.
They would be able to fight onto another day as they have control of whole north and south America more or less. Why risk NYC nuked over Latvia or London? When they can just fold it over when things go tough and figure out what to do later. Perhaps convince Russians and Chinese to go at it.
We have Russians over there, in do or die situation. Yet for Americans all of this is just fodder that they can lose.
I’m sure if Putin rolls into Europe. We’ll see tactical nuke usage from Russians in very least. What American is going to agree to conscription to fight in Latvia with Russians? Knowing that he might get nuked while at it or his home town might be turned to ashes in the states. Over Latvia. I’m sure they’d let even UK fall in this scenario.
Why risk it all over mere buffer states that are not crucial to its homeland well being.
All I see is that they are working hard to corner Russia into a situation where they are going to fall apart as a country - its matter of time.
That’s all great but is anyone considering that a cornered beast might just go screw it and go for it? Look at Putins comments lately, he’s borderline suicidal.
So what then? Do you really think USA will commit and put its homeland into direct path of nuclear strikes over buffer zones? Or they will perhaps just go ‘oh well’. Even if Russia takes whole of EU - that is still minimal threat to the USA.
They would be able to fight onto another day as they have control of whole north and south America more or less. Why risk NYC nuked over Latvia or London? When they can just fold it over when things go tough and figure out what to do later. Perhaps convince Russians and Chinese to go at it.
We have Russians over there, in do or die situation. Yet for Americans all of this is just fodder that they can lose.
I’m sure if Putin rolls into Europe. We’ll see tactical nuke usage from Russians in very least. What American is going to agree to conscription to fight in Latvia with Russians? Knowing that he might get nuked while at it or his home town might be turned to ashes in the states. Over Latvia. I’m sure they’d let even UK fall in this scenario.
Why risk it all over mere buffer states that are not crucial to its homeland well being.
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Putin wants the glory days back, he might be looking to secure his place in history.
He knows the west is not going to really help Ukrain, sanctions and sticks and stones are no threat to him.
He controls a lot of oil and gas, thats what keeps the army moving and the west worring about gas supplies, he holds a lot of cards.
He has Belarus, once he gets Ukrain he is free to move all the way up to Nato territory.
Im not saying he will go after nato territory, but he will be on their borders where he wants to be
Ukrain was a buffer zone. Nato should have let them in a long time ago and this wouldn't be happening.
Putin is a bully and a **** stirrer, he sends his bombers to the edge of our airspace to wind us up regularly and let us know he is still it's the cold war all over again. Whether he invades or not is 50/50 but he took the Crimean Peninsula and got away with it, will he now finish the job?
As for Hong Kong it was agreed to be handed back a long time before it was and it was done peacefully and without incident so why the hell would anyone need to help us?
Rule Britannia is long gone, Britains history is steeped in blood and nothing to be proud of. Now though thanks to the rule Britannia mob we are just an alone little island with a dimishied say in anything.
America doesn't give a **** about us and more, Bidens special relation ship has somehow switched to the Germans, although bungling Boris could be the reason for that.
He knows the west is not going to really help Ukrain, sanctions and sticks and stones are no threat to him.
He controls a lot of oil and gas, thats what keeps the army moving and the west worring about gas supplies, he holds a lot of cards.
He has Belarus, once he gets Ukrain he is free to move all the way up to Nato territory.
Im not saying he will go after nato territory, but he will be on their borders where he wants to be
Ukrain was a buffer zone. Nato should have let them in a long time ago and this wouldn't be happening.
Putin is a bully and a **** stirrer, he sends his bombers to the edge of our airspace to wind us up regularly and let us know he is still it's the cold war all over again. Whether he invades or not is 50/50 but he took the Crimean Peninsula and got away with it, will he now finish the job?
As for Hong Kong it was agreed to be handed back a long time before it was and it was done peacefully and without incident so why the hell would anyone need to help us?
Rule Britannia is long gone, Britains history is steeped in blood and nothing to be proud of. Now though thanks to the rule Britannia mob we are just an alone little island with a dimishied say in anything.
America doesn't give a **** about us and more, Bidens special relation ship has somehow switched to the Germans, although bungling Boris could be the reason for that.
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Russia was massing first.
Nato doesn't even have 100,000 troops in Europe.
And most of Natos troops are in Germany.
There has been basically zero provocation from the west or ukraine. Only a reaction to an action by the Russians.
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