Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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potatolord said:
Hoping that forces are being gathered to cut off crimea. The issue is going to be that Russia are now dug in.

I'm fairly hopeful Ukraine have accumulated a critical mass of materiel, and good intelligence, that will permit a decisive push.
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'Dug in' is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.
 
It would be great if Ukraine manages to use the British and German tanks they got to mount an attack towards Sea of Azov, cut off the land supply route to Crimea and somehow destroy the bridge. This will probably put an end to both the war and Putin's regime. But given how much time and fresh recruits Russia got to fortify their positions in South Ukraine, this will be a very hard task.

Think more likely Ukraine will attack in the area around Bakhmut - the Russians there have been mostly attacking and didn't build much fortifications. Also Vagner and the "elite" regular units attached to them are almost the only Russian force left that can still mount a decent offensive. Surrounding and destroying them may show Putin&Co that this war can't be won anymore.
 
Turn said:
www.nytimes.com

China’s Ambassador to the E.U. Tries to Distance Beijing From Moscow (Published 2023)

The ambassador, Fu Cong, said China was not on Russia’s side in the war in Ukraine. “‘No limit’ is nothing but rhetoric,” he said, referring to a statement from last year about the countries’ relationship.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

*Polish President’s Aide Przydacz: Zelenskiy Is In Poland
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That's hilarious

Xi and Putin: We have a no limits relationship and we are going to create global changes not seen for 100 years

Chinese ambassador to EU: Oh hey guys, don't worry about what Xi says, he's just joking for political clout, China doesn't like Russia
 
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Grim5 said:
That's hilarious

Xi and Putin: We have a no limits relationship and we are going to create global changes not seen for 100 years

Chinese ambassador to EU: Oh hey guys, don't worry about what Xi says, he's just joking for political clout, China doesn't like Russia
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It is actually true mind - despite appearances there is no love lost between them if it was not for a common foe in the West they'd probably have destroyed each other by now.
 
Rroff said:
It is actually true mind - despite appearances there is no love lost between them if it was not for a common foe in the West they'd probably have destroyed each other by now.
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It's not widely talked about in the grand scheme of the cold war but in 1969 there was the infamous Sino-Soviet split that resulted in conflict between the two communist powers at Damansky Island killing several hundred on each side. So it's not like these two countries don't have bad history between them, pretty sure Xi has half an eye on more Russian land if things go really wrong for the Russians.
 
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Grim5 said:
That's hilarious

Xi and Putin: We have a no limits relationship and we are going to create global changes not seen for 100 years

Chinese ambassador to EU: Oh hey guys, don't worry about what Xi says, he's just joking for political clout, China doesn't like Russia
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So basically China is playing both sides.
 
China’s probably doing what China does, and playing both sides to their own benefit, telling Ukraine’s allies that they want to help end the war to avoid jeopardising trade with the west, while on the other hand selling Russia weapons and ammo at a mark up, while getting Russian raw materials at a discount in return.
 
Rroff said:
I think there is a dangerous misconception that Russia's armed forces are hollowed out and down to dregs - there are still significant long standing regular forces not deployed to Ukraine, especially where they are drafted from better off regions, and almost certainly won't ever be deployed to Ukraine due to Putin's paranoia - but Russia is still capable of waging a significant war.
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They might have better troops, but they don’t have any better equipment than what’s been fielded and easily countered in Ukraine.

Good luck to Russian forces directly engaging NATO forces where NATO has totally air superiority 5 minutes after it kicks off.

It doesn’t matter what number comes after the T- for Russian armour when the plane that goes “Brrrrrrrrtttt” is overhead.
 
Terminal_Boy said:
They might have better troops, but they don’t have any better equipment than what’s been fielded and easily countered in Ukraine.

Good luck to Russian forces directly engaging NATO forces where NATO has totally air superiority 5 minutes after it kicks off.

It doesn’t matter what number comes after the T- for Russian armour when the plane that goes “Brrrrrrrrtttt” is overhead.
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All out war with NATO is another scenario again. Russia simply has nothing to deal with the scale of NATO advanced weaponry if fully on a war footing - ignoring nukes.

But there seems to be a misconception that the Russian army is basically decimated - there are still many fully equipped regiments and brigades which have never been utilised in Ukraine - the army groups utilised were not sent in full strength either - nominally around 30% of their standing size in the first instance though more have been sent to replace losses.
 
Scougar said:
UKR have to do something soon. If they don't it'll be just a slow grind from Russia, or a stalemate, where Russia get to keep what they captured... and pootie boy gets vindicated that he got something for all the expensive and lives lost etc. That will embolden China into going at China and potentially other targets as well.
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I’d give China a bit more credit. They aren’t stupid like Russia. They can see what a complete and utter mess this is for Putin and they won’t be wanting a slice. They of course have a lot to learn from Russias mistakes!!
 
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Rroff said:
there are still many fully equipped regiments and brigades which have never been utilised in Ukraine - the army groups utilised were not sent in full strength either - nominally around 30% of their standing size in the first instance though more have been sent to replace losses.
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Why have Russia not committed their full forces? Surley if you want to win you commit the forces that have a chance of doing this? Or do Russia want to look deliberately weak for some obscure reason.
 
Rroff said:
All out war with NATO is another scenario again. Russia simply has nothing to deal with the scale of NATO advanced weaponry if fully on a war footing - ignoring nukes.

But there seems to be a misconception that the Russian army is basically decimated - there are still many fully equipped regiments and brigades which have never been utilised in Ukraine - the army groups utilised were not sent in full strength either - nominally around 30% of their standing size in the first instance though more have been sent to replace losses.
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Unless you’ve seen these forces with your own eyes I’d be inclined to believe they don’t exist in the manner that Putin would like us to think.
 
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Rroff said:
But there seems to be a misconception that the Russian army is basically decimated - there are still many fully equipped regiments and brigades which have never been utilised in Ukraine - the army groups utilised were not sent in full strength either - nominally around 30% of their standing size in the first instance though more have been sent to replace losses.
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What's the source for this and what sort of units are you talking about here? Like VDV, navy infantry? Or more like some internal troops or some unit deployed to a border area to do air defence or provide a presence with old equipment something?

Can you point out a fully equipped brigade that they haven't used for context as I think this needs a bit more context, it would seem odd to have a fully equipped (with modern Russian equipment) brigade as yet uninvolved given the equipment shortages.
 
Bazzards said:
Why have Russia not committed their full forces? Surley if you want to win you commit the forces that have a chance of doing this? Or do Russia want to look deliberately weak for some obscure reason.
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The answer to that is complex - Putin is far too paranoid to not leave Russia with significant forces at home, those higher up the Russian government tend to have increasing layers of yes men below them removing them from the full picture and so on. Russia initially seemed to think they could basically replay Crimea 2.0 so the initial forces were much more for show so they've ended up throwing good money after bad over time as well.

IMO seeing all these actions i.e. trotting out T-54/55 tanks and so on as purely desperation is somewhat wrong as well - Russia has tried to do this on the cheap throughout not just because of the state of their armed forces, life is cheap to the Russian government and if they can get the job done grinding with old equipment and "disposable" people they will do so.

I don't think Russia are trying to look deliberately weak - there is a tiny possibility they might be trying to bait NATO into something but I highly doubt it but neither would I conclusively dismiss the possibility.
 
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