Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Imagine if Russia took back full control of Bakhmut, changed the name back to Artemivsk, held a massive party, and then Ukraine launched a massive counterattack and took it straight back xD

Poor Putin would have to spend the summer months sitting in a boiling office because he couldn't risk opening a window :D


CaptainRAVE said:
It’s not over yet.
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The big problem at this point, is that Crimea has been under DeFacto Russian control for over nine years now. That's almost half the time Ukraine controlled it for previously. Which shouldn't mean anything as they took it illegally, but in reality it does mean something because it's become the status quo and that's something western governments are often ill pressed to mess with, even if Ukraine pushed Russia back to pre-22 borders and wanted to lay a bloody siege to Crimea that would make Bakhmut look like a tea party it's unlikely they would be given the resources to do it due to how bad the political optics would be.
 
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Rroff said:
Reports today the US leaning on the Ukrainian government to appear more open to negotiation but still, Crimea I think realistically is something which is going to be decided on down the line in reality rather than ideals, limitations or goals right now.
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They’ve got to be seen to be doing this. They’ll be loving the hammering Russia is getting though. At the same time at some point Russia has to have a way out, once pushed out. The problem still remains that you can’t negotiate with Russia since any agreement is meaningless. What you can do is arm Ukraine to the max.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
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If not the beginning of the end, this is the end of the beginning as Sleepy Joe is getting told the murmurings of discontent from his potential supporters is becoming too loud to ignore, and without US support the military situation will become rapidly untenable. The rest of the row of dominoes will inevitably subsequently fall. If it gets into next winter it's all but a foregone conclusion that Russia's long(ish) game will pay dividends as the tacit support that's quietly hitting poorer people extremely hard, wanes.

This war / special operation will, as I suggested ages ago, be won or lost not on the battlefields, but at the anonymity of the polling stations of Europe and the USA.
 
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Ukrainian Eastern Military Command Spokesperson Tells Reuters:
- Situation Difficult in Bakhmut, Russian Forces Concentrating All Efforts to Take City
- Russian Forces Not Having Strategic Success and Have Significant Losses
- Ukraine Controls Situation, Understands Russian Intentions and Counters Them Effectively Despite Russia’s Numerical Superiority
- Russia Has Tactical Success in Some Places, but Pays Large Price for It
 
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