Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Colonel_Klinck said:
So Russian ships shown to be in the area of the explosions when they happened. One of the ships capable of launching mini subs. Russia famous for false flags. Destroying the pipeline costs them nothing but allows them to blame the West and they hoped for a brutal winter in Europe which thankfully didn't materialise.
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It is worth baring in mind that if it was a false flag, it was pulled off expertly, competently and successfully. Which could be argued is almost enough to exonerate Russia :cry:
 
Turn said:
*Russia’s Medvedev: Drone Attack Leaves Russia No Options Except Elimination of Zelenskiy and His ‘Clique’
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Worry now is with the writing is on the wall for the 3 day operation that they try something stupid. I don't think Ukraine would bother trying something like this as the chances of actually getting near Putin are almost negligible. Even if they had it might just Martyr the **** and escalate things.
Could be partisans with some consumer drones but feels more of a false flag operation. Russia can escalate as the domestic audience has been fed their excuses.
 
dowie said:
That's clearly nonsense, his wealth is from real estate mostly in the US. That's basically it.

He's not a good businessman, quite the opposite, he's had multiple failed businesses over the years but he's wealthy simply because he was long real estate over a few decades after inheriting real estate from his wealthy father.

I think perhaps you're confusing things like him selling his property in Florida to some Oligarch or maybe some Russian nationals investing in some real estate venture in NYC.

Anyway it seems rather silly to try and use things like that as an argument, there are plenty of things to criticise Trump over w.r.t his views on NATO, Russia and Ukraine without needing to indulge in fantasy/conspiracy theories.
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bris said:
There's more a lot more
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I'm sure there is, you could spam a bunch more links from google if you want it doesn't really address the point. I mean you've thrown in a wiki article that basically shows frustrated attempts/failures at doing stuff in Russia, he doesn't seem to have ventures there. Yet you said; "where does trump get all his money? Russia that's where".
 
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Turn said:
*Russia’s Medvedev: Drone Attack Leaves Russia No Options Except Elimination of Zelenskiy and His ‘Clique’
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That drone attack makes no sense, its basically a small drone doing very little damage to the top of the kremlin,

There is no way that was an assassination attempt, no line of sight or drone big enough to do much damage let alone target anyone inside.

It's a false flag with the intension of getting the Russian citizen's side, to be outraged at the attack on the kremlin.
 
bris said:
That drone attack makes no sense, its basically a small drone doing very little damage to the top of the kremlin,

There is no way that was an assassination attempt, no line of sight or drone big enough to do much damage let alone target anyone inside.

It's a false flag with the intension of getting the Russian citizen's side, to be outraged at the attack on the kremlin.
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Yes. I don't believe the Ukrainians would do that.
 
How on earth do drones get anywhere near the Kremlin? Surely the Russians have air defence systems to stop exactly this sort of thing happening?
 
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dowie said:
I'm sure there is, you could spam a bunch more links from google if you want it doesn't really address the point. I mean you've thrown in a wiki article that basically shows frustrated attempts/failures at doing stuff in Russia, he doesn't seem to have ventures there. Yet you said; "where does trump get all his money? Russia that's where".
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If what's in front of your eyes isn't enough for you then just stay in denial.

Trump has with no doubt in my mind made some mad deal with Putin

Its now pretty obvious to me that was to get him to run for President, Putin funded and promoted it and got him into office.

It pretty obvious now what Russia got for the money they gave him.

Its not news that Putin helped get him into office or are you going to deny that too?
 
So, looks like that 'drone attack' was a false flag. The footage is hilarious!

Roar87 said:
Supposing it was the US or UK who did it via special forces with submarines, what evidence would there be?
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Evidence? Just off the top of my head:

* a leak from the government or the military
* vessel sightings in the area
* satellite footage

Do we have any of those?

Roar87 said:
Does a lack of evidence mean it didn't happen?
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Of course not, but it doesn't mean we can simply insert whatever conspiracy theory we prefer.
 
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