Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Russia never paid for its sins after ww2. It never faced justice and trials. The best thing for that country is to lose this war, revolution to replace the government and face reality by paying for their crimes.
you are losing your plot
what ww2 sins? what revolution? back to socialism?
so its not Putin guilty anymore? its whole russia for the whole russian history? communist or otherwise?
 
you are losing your plot
what ww2 sins? what revolution? back to socialism?
so its not Putin guilty anymore? its whole russia for the whole russian history? communist or otherwise?
Attacking Poland and raping every woman between Moscow and Berlin (very slight exaggeration) seem like pretty hefty crimes they've avoided justice over.
 
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you are losing your plot
what ww2 sins? what revolution? back to socialism?
so its not Putin guilty anymore? its whole russia for the whole russian history? communist or otherwise?
Attacking Finland and Poland, annexing the Baltics, and then raping and pillaging and genociding their way across eastern and Central Europe. It wasn't some noble liberation Russia were after the same goals and lands the Nazi were.
 
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Imagine it was the UK that went to war and ended up drafting loads of us up. Forced into a foreign country where you knew if you refused not only would you likely be punished / killed but also your family.
That applies to probably the vast majority of people who have ever fought in war going back to the start of human history.

Shoot yourself or surrender.
 
The trench video -

this is literally what happens when you have skilled special forces operators exercising an assault mission to shape the battlefield. Night vision equipment they are using and comfortable with cover cover; missions objectives and body counts. Night after night, in different areas will be the driver for a huge sense of fear ; ` we own the night`.

 
Re the russian question on WW2

i cannot recommend this enough


5 hours of the last weeks of the Battle of Berlin, and an entire episode is given to the `Rape of Berlin` , from a Russian historian.
 
The Russians were heroes in ww2 because they were on the allied side, now they are attacking a 'friendly' nation they are 'evil orcs'. History eh, always interesting.
 
The Russians were heroes in ww2 because they were on the allied side, now they are attacking a 'friendly' nation they are 'evil orcs'. History eh, always interesting.

They weren't heroes at all. They were dubious allies. Never trusted. Plans existed for the US and Britain to invade Russia following the defeat of the nazis.
 
Have you ever picked up a history book?
I have, but perhaps these were not the same that you have.
There was far less focus on raping and genociding in my books. Mostly these were about USSR alliance with UK and USA to fight fascism.
And then genocide was condemned at Nurenberg trials, including exposed PLANNED in advance AND DELIBERATE execution of jews and slavs on occupied territory.

But you are missing my point
rhetoric change from "Mad Vlad Putin must pay for sudden and unprovoked attack of Ukraine" to "Evil peoples of Russia must pay for sins of past 84 years" is dangerous
 
It's not on the Ukrainians to forgive Russia, it will be on the Russians to make amends and change and prove they are not orcs collectively. none of them are innocent.

This is the kind of attitude that justifies genocide, and incidentally war crimes like the rape and murder of civilians. It's incredible people lack such self awareness. Despite playing online games and dealing with the general public, I do sometimes forget how stupid most people are. Posts like this act as a reminder though.
 
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