Your post has about as much meaning as it would if you'd just randomly pressed keys on the keyboard and submitted it - it needs to end, as soon as possible, in a way which as much as possible is good for everyone. We need to make sure, amongst other things, this doesn't set a precedent which causes more misery in the future on a much larger scale or allows Russia to simply pause, rebuild, and start all over again.
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Your post has about as much meaning as it would if you'd just randomly pressed keys on the keyboard and submitted it - it needs to end, as soon as possible, in a way which as much as possible is good for everyone. We need to make sure, amongst other things, this doesn't set a precedent which causes more misery in the future on a much larger scale or allows Russia to simply pause, rebuild, and start all over again.
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Nice steering wheel
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Your argument here is that a supporter of Ukraine is equivalent to them attacking Russia. By your own argument Roar, we should let Ukraine attack China, Iran and North Korea since they supply Russia with Weapons.
Wagner is a Russian based PMC. They still do Russian's bidding. It is NOT equivalent to your made up fantasy world.
Edit: some of you need to understand why we fought world wars. Let you be reminded that if we didn't, you probably wouldn't be speaking English today.
Wagner is a Russian based PMC. They still do Russian's bidding. It is NOT equivalent to your made up fantasy world.
Edit: some of you need to understand why we fought world wars. Let you be reminded that if we didn't, you probably wouldn't be speaking English today.
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Problem there is - Ukraine only gravitated, despite what some want to believe, towards NATO in reaction to Russia actions - even under pro-Western leaders support for joining NATO was relatively low and they had legislation that limited involvement with foreign security pacts to cooperation not integration. Ukraine ultimately wanted to stand on its own 2 feet.
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We have no say in any of that.
If Wagner did attack Poland, Poland could just steam into Belarus and free everyone from Putins control. I’m pretty sure the Belarusian people are hoping for it, they hate what is happening to them.
Terrible analogy.
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Quite the contrary, though we don't seem to be determined to that end. With the right equipment and support Ukraine can put Russian forces on the back foot and mitigate their ability to recover in the longer term to regain the initiative, possibly sufficient to gain Ukraine security guarantees against future incursions robust enough to withstand future Russian intentions, which likely wouldn't work if Russia manages through its actions to succeed in some of its goals now.
A more appropriate analogy would be @Roar87 is Russia and your sister is Ukraine while he's telling you she loves being choked really.
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I suspect Wagner are there to keep Belarus in line.
Yes we do, WE inserted ourselves into this again, Budapest Memorandum, go read it just once, and see what we got out of the deal and what Ukraine gave up.
Now if you are saying "lol not really you're on you're own" to it then OK Ukraine and every other threatened country might as well start firing up those WMDs.
I wonder how safe you'd feel once a few "bigeye" drones are developed and out in the wild, for example.
Defend nukes incase the Belarusian people decide to elect a leader.
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Have nuclear weapons been used then?
It's all meaningless anyway when psyops from both sides have constantly meddled in the country for decades.
It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war | Seumas Milne
Seumas Milne: The attempt to lever Kiev into the western camp by ousting an elected leader made conflict certain. It could be a threat to us all
www.theguardian.com
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What I mean is the military won't sign any contract that allows Musk to say no to how they are used in the field.
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Fair point.
Have nuclear weapons been used then?
It's all meaningless anyway when psyops from both sides have constantly meddled in the country for decades.
It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war | Seumas Milne
Seumas Milne: The attempt to lever Kiev into the western camp by ousting an elected leader made conflict certain. It could be a threat to us all
If the UK invaded Ukraine and held sham referendums, that would be OK with you?
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Everything is fine by comrade-jaffa when it comes to supreme commander Putin.
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More nonsense from the nonsense factory. We simply want to fully support Ukraine in defending itself from an invader and an invader that has behaved little better than Germany in 1939/40. Ukraine gets to decide when they've had enough, not you not us. Some said we should have appeased Germany in 1940 when our backs were to the wall. Thankfully our grandparents thought different.
Have nuclear weapons been used then?
It's all meaningless anyway when psyops from both sides have constantly meddled in the country for decades.
It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war | Seumas Milne
Seumas Milne: The attempt to lever Kiev into the western camp by ousting an elected leader made conflict certain. It could be a threat to us all
You are quoting a Guardian article because it suits your narrative. Their president was removed by their parliament because he lied to the nation and was in Putin's pocket. Their citizens saw how well former soviet nations were doing in the EU and how poorly those under the Russian boot were doing and said we'll take the EU please. Belarus citizens want the same thing but Putin sent in the troops to put their protests down and another election that was as corrupt as the Russian ones left them with their dictator for the foreseeable.
You and Roar don't give two ***** about Ukraine or Ukrainians, so don't pretend you do.
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Have nuclear weapons been used then?
It's all meaningless anyway when psyops from both sides have constantly meddled in the country for decades.
It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war | Seumas Milne
Seumas Milne: The attempt to lever Kiev into the western camp by ousting an elected leader made conflict certain. It could be a threat to us all
I clicked on that, only to find it was nine years old and written by Seumas Milne, and therefore contrarian nonsense.
He's always good for a laugh, unless you're a member of the Labour Party.
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