Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Rroff said:
Apparently ~620 out of 708 Warrior armoured vehicles are operational but that is intended to decline by 100 this year, 157 out of 227 operational Challenger 2 tanks, etc. not terrible but not ideal either. What could actually be fielded without at least a months prep though is likely less than half those numbers :s
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It's okay, remember, it's not a numbers game... according to the minister for defense.

Fewer everything equals better apparently
 
alchal said:
It's okay, remember, it's not a numbers game... according to the minister for defense.

Fewer everything equals better apparently
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Question is what do we need to be prepared to respond to, we also shouldn't lose sight of the potential in a situation like this, even if relatively unlikely, for something to happen such as Putin being deposed by someone crazier than him who might do something utterly silly - not necessarily nuclear.
 
Mr pessimism reporting in.

The current situation is indirectly a result of a failure to recognise the traditional method of russian warfare: quantity>quality.

Early planning may have been over-optimistic regarding the impact of high-tech weaponry and motivated and skilled Ukrainian personnel. It may have also been optimistic about the volume, and timing, of support required.

I'd agree with many recent posters: there is an urgent need for immediate and increased assistance. Waiting a year or more for supply chains to ramp up comes with significant risks.
 
CaneyJ said:
Full video out now showing it going down. 20 seconds in it pans up to a smoke cloud in the sky, deffo hit by a SAM.

Belgorod was under air raid alert 40 mins pior so Russian air defence was also alert.

I think Russian's have done another funny :cry:.
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Considering they cant shot down drones and seem only to be hitting their own side, they would do less damage if they just left their stuff off. :eek:
 
Another record today. Passed over 9000 artillary kills on Russia with yesterday being highest ever at 61. Day before was also one of the highest at 51.

Given Ukraine seems to inflate their figures by about +30% thats still great numbers, keep it up!
 
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Firestar_3x said:
Depends, are 20 people with rocks better than 2 people with machine guns?
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Good point but I'm pretty sure we don't equip our troops with the best.

All the new ajax and c3's should all have trophy fitted as standard, ditto something similar on boxer.

Nope, same as the ships, under armed.
 
Rroff said:
Question is what do we need to be prepared to respond to, we also shouldn't lose sight of the potential in a situation like this, even if relatively unlikely, for something to happen such as Putin being deposed by someone crazier than him who might do something utterly silly - not necessarily nuclear.
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One thinks that we should really concentrate on anti ballistic missile tech, but we need a balanced force, not a ' quick reaction ' with little armour or heavy arty, Ukraine has shown that light stuff goes dead dead pretty fast.
 
I hope if we end up enlisting we get those uber warriors in the population signed up first, so gym going singletons in wave one ;)

I think some people don't consider the consequences of Russia really winning. One of the big differences between the USSR and Russia is in regards resources.
I mean manufacturing resources and people resources.
IF Russia somehow takes most of / more of Ukraine they are suddenly going to bolster their number of cannon fodder to throw into the war machine should they need it. A lot of the soviet forces were not Russian nationals.
Plus of course they gain the Ukrainian manufacturing base.

We know that post soviet collapse many chunks of ex soviet manufacturing and stockpiles were left behind. Whilst I would be certain Russia would be a bit smarter about that now, I am certain they would expand some of the manufacturing back to the places that Ukraine are currently using.
So the drone manufacturing, the ammo etc. They would just IMO take a lot of the output back to mother Russia now as opposed to have it distributed all over Ukraine.
 
alchal said:
Good point but I'm pretty sure we don't equip our troops with the best.

All the new ajax and c3's should all have trophy fitted as standard, ditto something similar on boxer.

Nope, same as the ships, under armed.
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If we do ever get drawn into a conflict, I expect we'll find out pretty quickly how under prepared we are.

Which might explain why the Government are so hesitant to sent one of our aircraft carriers into the hot zone to play sitting duck.
 
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