Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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I’m also not sure they will be used in such a blanket way. Likely more targeted at military infrastructure so the other party concedes defeat.

That is one of the problems with many nuclear winter models - the scenario is often based on all the bombs exploding in high population density areas, when many targets will be military bases, airports, ports, power stations, etc. which are often in more remote or less built up areas with less to burn.
 
Absolutely agree with the general here:


Failure to perceive the potential threat and have a built in preparedness for it only makes it more likely due to looking weak and unprepared.

We don't need a massive professional force, though we do need to reverse some of the decline, neither do we need conscription but we do need a grass roots preparedness in reserve to build from if required.
 
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Britain should probably be doing at least some basic citizen training. It doesn't need to be as complex as countries that do mandatory military service, that's also very expensive to do, but maybe having everyone who can do a couple classes or something, even if it's just something simple like basic battlefield first aid training and some shooting range training for those who want to do it. The first aid training in particular is very useful even if there is no war, it saves lives in peacetime when a large portion of your population can do first aid
 
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Britain should probably be doing at least some basic citizen training. It doesn't need to be as complex as countries that do mandatory military service, that's also very expensive to do, but maybe having everyone who can do a couple classes or something, even if it's just something simple like basic battlefield first aid training and some shooting range training for those who want to do it. The first aid training in particular is very useful even if there is no war, it saves lives in peacetime when a large portion of your population can do first aid

Do a bit of Swiss.. get everyone down the gun range every year (not sure we need people to own a gun as they could be distributed quickly). They can learn/recap the latest weapon in use.
 
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Do a bit of Swiss.. get everyone down the gun range every year (not sure we need people to own a gun as they could be distributed quickly). They can learn/recap the latest weapon in use.

Distributing firearms should it come to it is a tricky one. Fine if the build up is slow but having them stored in 1 place make that a target, etc. and as seen in Israel recently became an issue with the local defence organisations when the Kibbutz were attacked and in some cases the person(s) with the keys were amongst the first killed and/or were cut off from their weapons.

IMO though something like the TA but more of a formality wouldn't be a bad idea with say 1-2 days a month or something going over general fitness, marksmanship, leadership skills, familiarity with weapons and equipment including armoured vehicle operation and maintenance, etc. in a more basic capacity than military training or the TA, etc. just being a hands on kind of thing - could tie into some vocational skills as well.
 
I agree, but did we really have to give Turkey such a big carrot?

Do turkeys even eat carrots?
It's the way the world works, nobody does anything for nothing. Even the help for Ukraine isn't out of the goodness of our hearts. If it wasn't for the knowledge that things would be worse for everyone if Russia was just allowed to do what they want then Ukraine would just be left to get on with it on their own most likely.
 
Absolutely agree with the general here:


Failure to perceive the potential threat and have a built in preparedness for it only makes it more likely due to looking weak and unprepared.

We don't need a massive professional force, though we do need to reverse some of the decline, neither do we need conscription but we do need a grass roots preparedness in reserve to build from if required.

I don't understand what a bigger army of men is going to do for us?

If it all kicks off between superpowers everyone will likely be incinerated anyway.
 
Distributing firearms should it come to it is a tricky one. Fine if the build up is slow but having them stored in 1 place make that a target, etc. and as seen in Israel recently became an issue with the local defence organisations when the Kibbutz were attacked and in some cases the person(s) with the keys were amongst the first killed and/or were cut off from their weapons.

IMO though something like the TA but more of a formality wouldn't be a bad idea with say 1-2 days a month or something going over general fitness, marksmanship, leadership skills, familiarity with weapons and equipment including armoured vehicle operation and maintenance, etc. in a more basic capacity than military training or the TA, etc. just being a hands on kind of thing - could tie into some vocational skills as well.
Issue is the UK have a rental market and unlike the swiss where a gun down the back of a sofa is acceptable, the UK needs it locked away in a safe etc.
 
I don't understand what a bigger army of men is going to do for us?

If it all kicks off between superpowers everyone will likely be incinerated anyway.

I am very unconvinced the NATO countries would end up using nukes first under just about any situation.

My take is Russia has seen that the old mass zerg still has a place.
My take is that the senior military people have chosen to speak up now because its harder for politicans to hand wave it away, and as such they are saying the number of personnel and amount of kit we actually have may well not be enough to stop a determined Russian conventional attack.
 
I don't understand what a bigger army of men is going to do for us?

If it all kicks off between superpowers everyone will likely be incinerated anyway.

The less prepared we are, the more enticing it looks for the likes of Russia to even think about doing something, in that respect it has strong preventative value. This situation can go quite a few ways yet, if things did kick off in the Baltics for instance it doesn't necessarily mean things will escalate to nuclear war. As I see it though the longer term outlook is going to be more a return to the worst days of the Cold War with an uncertain security nightmare on the borders of Europe, which again we need a strong preventative value to put any notions of it going further to bed.

Nuclear weapons tend to disincentivize wholesale action but Russia might still gamble on some version of the so called salami slice tactics.
 
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