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FishThrower said:
in my opinion, a year conscription after school would be a huge benefit to society which will bring discipline and also help them grow up quicker. it will be great for individual character building as well
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as someone who has been through 2 years of conscription (i'm singaporean), it's worthless for your perceived benefits
scum will still be scum
 
tamzzy said:
as someone who has been through 2 years of conscription (i'm singaporean), it's worthless for your perceived benefits
scum will still be scum
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Depends a bit what kind of conscription it is - in some countries it is a lot more productive than others. Though largely I'd agree scum tend to stay scum but I do know some people who've been improved by the experience.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
We should certainly consider national service.
I think to me the most logical approach would be a binding vote, those who vote yes, no matter their age can go first

Once those who voted for it have all taken their turn we can see if we need any more people to be trained ;)
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Let me guess you're too old for your own proposal?

Let me guess you're expecting people to put their careers and lives on hold and disadvantage themselves. Do women also have to do this service?
 
Here for the record it's done quite well. There is a heavy tax penalty for not engaging. You can be conscientious objector if you are a wet blanket and do civil service instead.

But then again the population of Switzerland that engages in this is a close knit community with strong country ties and loyalty. Its a source of great pride here.
 
Firestar_3x said:
Do what though? With no land link Russia has no option of walking across our border, so that means everything has to be done at range via air or sea.

Russia has already shown its "excellence" in both these scenarios, being unable to dominate the air in a country adjacent to it, and its navy has been sunk by a country with no navy.

I find it hard to believe Russia has the capacity to invade us by sea, it has serious logistical issues supporting an invasion force by land in a country adjacent to it let alone sea at distance.

Long range bombing isn't really a long term solution, they will just get shot down on route by either ourselves or another NATO member.

So realistically this leaves russia a couple of options, 1. Try and starve us out by some sort of sea blockade and cut our subsea cables, but Russia isn't able to keep this up as its ships will be sunk. 2. Fire missiles at us of which Russia seems to have limited numbers plus its factories will be targeted by NATO and be diminished over time.

3. Nuclear war, if so then it is what it is.
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If they really wanted too they could just send a few tourists in to poison everybody. ;)
 
Firestar_3x said:
Russia has already shown its "excellence" in both these scenarios, being unable to dominate the air in a country adjacent to it, and its navy has been sunk by a country with no navy.
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I don't think Russia has the capability to invade us by sea, but their navy hasn't been sunk, the Black Sea fleet isn't their entire Navy.
 
Orangeade said:
Let me guess you're too old for your own proposal?

Let me guess you're expecting people to put their careers and lives on hold and disadvantage themselves. Do women also have to do this service?
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Personally I think all UK should do national service. Including those coming in and taking UK citizenship.

The IDF conscription has a get out of it clause - if you're an entrepreneur with a company.. that's why there's so many Isreali startup companies. If that company fails.. back to subscription. Sounds bonafide.
 
Terminal_Boy said:
This is the same Russian Navy who’s flagship has to be towed everywhere by tugs?
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They do still have a large Navy, the Black Sea fleet isn't close to their entire Navy. Obviously I'm not saying their ships are to the same standard as ours, but I think some people think Russia has lost half their ships, which just isn't the case.
 
FishThrower said:
I was saying the exact same thing about the chavs and high immigrant population. In the rare circumstances that we will ever get invaded, can you honestly see people from other cultures who have only been in the country for under 10 years fight side by side with people born here?. I can bet that they would also flee like what they have originally done to their homeland.

The chavs... are just a group of people not liking what to be told to do, they wouldn't last 10 minutes in a war as they have zero discipline.

in my opinion, a year conscription after school would be a huge benefit to society which will bring discipline and also help them grow up quicker. it will be great for individual character building as well
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Dont worry, the offended woke right will all flock to serve .... oh and raise conscription to age 65.
 
Orangeade said:
Yes, britain a nation of chavs and immigrants trying to enforce military service on people who have no real allegiance to the country. Should be fun to watch them try and implement that. Over 14% of your entire country wasn't even born in the UK. :D



Hahaha, I would subscribe to the YouTube channels to see this. Maybe the image of Britain presented to Europeans and World isn't exactly fair...but if 20% of it is true it should be amusing!



Yes let's ignore the 250,000,000,000 of support provided so far. Quarter of a trillion is just words I guess, inflation really is that strong!
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Oh look the vatniks back again.

250 billion huh, care to show your workings out.

Also they need more tanks and arty shells and longe range weapons and aircraft etc etc, but you already knew that.

They are fighting with one arm tied up
 
Orangeade said:
Let me guess you're too old for your own proposal?

Let me guess you're expecting people to put their careers and lives on hold and disadvantage themselves. Do women also have to do this service?
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So I specifically said you would go first if you voted for it, no matter your age

How anyone with a decent grasp of English could have managed to twist that to ask the question you did.
I am a bit stunned to be honest.

As I posted a day or so ago, in the modern world the question of man vs women and serving should there be a compulsory mobilisation is a very interesting debate.
 
Orangeade said:
Here for the record it's done quite well. There is a heavy tax penalty for not engaging. You can be conscientious objector if you are a wet blanket and do civil service instead.

But then again the population of Switzerland that engages in this is a close knit community with strong country ties and loyalty. Its a source of great pride here.
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LOL, the swiss, have you ever turned up to fight for anything?

I am not sure the national strategy of hiding in holes under mountains would really be that effective a defense but there you go ;)
 
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