Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Mr Badger said:
I'm not disputing any of the responses, but I have long questioned whether Germany was serious about occupying the UK. Of course Hitler wanted us out of the war (and if he hadn't proved to be untrustworthy maybe a deal might have been done) but even if they could have pulled off Operation Sealion it would have cost them dearly and spread their forces even thinner. Successfully invading across the channel would be quite some feat with the Royal Navy there to stop you and Hitler's main strategic goals were to his east.
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My view was if the Brits had of butted out and stayed out he would have ignored us
But we didnt and he didnt
Given time he could have starved Britain into submission anyway
 
Mr Badger said:
I'm not disputing any of the responses, but I have long questioned whether Germany was serious about occupying the UK. Of course Hitler wanted us out of the war (and if he hadn't proved to be untrustworthy maybe a deal might have been done) but even if they could have pulled off Operation Sealion it would have cost them dearly and spread their forces even thinner. Successfully invading across the channel would be quite some feat with the Royal Navy there to stop you and Hitler's main strategic goals were to his east.
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That gets complicated - Germany lacked the air force to degrade British manufacturing sufficiently to enable an invasion and lacked the ability to take the fight to the British navy which would have been required to facilitate any crossing. It was calculated it would have taken them 4-5 years of gearing up European manufacturing and/or help from the USSR to make an invasion a reality. They did engage in attempts to soften up the UK for an invasion however. If things had gone a bit differently the situation could have been more favourable for them (OK that goes without saying in some ways), and if Britain had come to some agreement which meant leaving Germany alone to do their thing would eventually have been in a position to isolate and maybe invade the UK, especially if in the longer term they settled with the USSR and worked together against us. Though a more likely outcome in the longer run would have been war between the new Germany and the USSR.

For Hitler invading the UK was far down the list of priorities.
 
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bingham67 said:

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Pentagon says it's something in space

Probably the Russians have put satellites with lasers or something into space so they can atttack American satellites. Maybe they've already tested it and attacked a Space X starlink satellite


Alternatively we also know the Russians and Chinese have been putting satellites in space that follow American military satellites and maybe they got too close and smashed into an American satellite
 
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Grim5 said:
Pentagon says it's something in space

Probably the Russians have put satellites with lasers or something into space so they can atttack American satellites. Maybe they've already tested it and attacked a Space X starlink satellite


Alternatively we also know the Russians and Chinese have been putting satellites in space that follow American military satellites and maybe they got too close and smashed into an American satellite
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OCUK mount up!
 
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delta0 said:
The fact he wants it made public means it’s either in relation to political figures or to something else that may be of interest to the public.
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The word capability crops up a lot which tends to suggest it probably isn't political figures maybe.
 
Rroff said:
The word capability crops up a lot which tends to suggest it probably isn't political figures maybe.
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It also mentions destabilising militaries. If there are nukes in space then tactical ones could be used in that way. However there is a treaty against that and Russia have signed up to it. Russia may be trying to find new ways of preventing their nukes being neutralised.
 
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Well detonating nukes in space would probably destroy every country's satellites including the Russians own

But I don't think the Russians care much for it, they've been fighting the war in Ukraine as if it's world war 2 all over again anyway, so losing satellites probably won't affect them much, but it would be a huge blow for the American and nato military
 
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Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Seemed quite apt considering some (a few) peoples views round here
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Why Churchill fought on​


It has been rightly pointed out that such intransigence might well lead to destruction:


The difference between perseverance and disastrous inflexibility can be terribly thin. England came within a hair’s breadth of losing the war and suffering the horrors of invasion and occupation by Nazi Germany. In that case, Churchill’s bulldog determination—his refusal to accept a relatively generous peace offer after the fall of France—would seem in retrospect the magnificent, if wrong-headed, defiance of a tragic figure who brought his people low by his own heroic intransigence.10


Churchill was prepared to accept that risk, but if Britain had fallen, his decision would not have been wrongheaded. In his own words, “You have to consider the character of the Nazi movement and the rule that it implies.”11 Peace with Hitler would have surrendered the whole of Europe, and perhaps the world, to soul-destroying tyranny; it would have betrayed every moral principle Britain stood for.
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winstonchurchill.hillsdale.edu

How Churchill Saw the Second World War as a Moral Conflict

To understand why Churchill fought on, resisting any peace with Hitler, we must understand the moral conflict as well as the military one.
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