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Tombstone said:
You are totally missing the point, its a huge (and vitally important) leap to go from a conventional form of warfare to he has literally just declared nuclear war. I really dont know what else to tell you, you read it as you want, all I will say again is thank god you arent in charge of anything if your take on his words are that it is a formal declaration of nuclear war.
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It's a threat of nuclear war, do you think it's a bluff ? I don't think it is and I honestly believe we should call his bluff declare war get it over & done, it's going to happen, the toothpaste is out of the tube now
 
Minusorange said:
It's a threat of nuclear war, do you think it's a bluff ? I don't think it is and I honestly believe we should call his bluff declare war get it over & done, it's going to happen, the toothpaste is out of the tube now
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Do I think that he will initiate a nuclear war, actually no, I dont think he will. Is he threatening to, possibly, depends what he actually meant. But the fact is, and this is undeniable, he did not declare nuclear war

Do you truly believe that Putin has declared nuclear war. Not that he has threatened or implied it, but that Putin has literally declared nuclear war?
 
dowie said:
I mean Russia has pretty much announced they're doing it now no?
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I've not seen any actual confirmation?

People (who actually are) in Mariupol region so far are saying they are seeing no military action including at the port despite what Marco is saying.
 
Rroff said:
I've not seen any actual confirmation?
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Here is Putin:


People (who actually are) in Mariupol region so far are saying they are seeing no military action including at the port despite what Marco is saying.
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Eh? I just linked to journalists confirming it, CNN journalist hearing jets etc..

Here is the US President confirming it:


Here is Mariupol:

 
Tombstone said:
Do I think that he will initiate a nuclear war, actually no, I dont think he will. Is he threatening to, possibly, depends what he actually meant. But the fact is, and this is undeniable, he did not declare nuclear war

Do you truly believe that Putin has declared nuclear war. Not that he has threatened or implied it, but that Putin has literally declared nuclear war?
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I believe he's threatened and would go through with it if called, so it makes no difference the end result is the same, "help our enemy and get nuked"

We have to help Ukraine we started this mess with the regime change 8 years ago, it's our responsibility
 
dowie said:
Eh? I just linked to journalists confirming it, CNN journalist hearing jets etc..

Here is the US President confirming it:
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I mean what has actually happened - and where these strikes actually occurred - there is a lot of talk and noise but beyond the fact there have been a few explosions, mostly quite distant ones, there doesn't seem to be much actual confirmation of the details.
 
Minusorange said:
I believe he's threatened and would go through with it if called, so it makes no difference the end result is the same, "help our enemy and get nuked"

We have to help Ukraine we started this mess with the regime change 8 years ago, it's our responsibility
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Do you believe that Putin has just declared nuclear war? Yes or no
 
Tombstone said:
Do you believe that Putin has just declared nuclear war? Yes or no
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Covertly yes, Overtly no, it's semantics, if we help Ukraine, which we are, then he will use his nukes

Will you accept a nuclear war only when the bombs start falling ? if you want to get into semantics we have been at nuclear war with Russia since WW2, the entire cold war has been a nuclear war, the nukes have been the assurance to not declare war whilst being unofficially at war
 
Minusorange said:
Covertly yes, Overtly no, it's semantics, if we help Ukraine, which we are, then he will use his nukes
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Well you said that he had declared nuclear war, so do you say he has or he hasnt. You're covertly, overtly line is just fence sitting now. You stated he had declared nuclear war, so has he or not? Its a straight question, has he declared nuclear war, as per your earlier post, or not?
 
Tombstone said:
Well you said that he had declared nuclear war, so do you say he has or he hasnt. You're covertly, overtly line is just fence sitting now. You stated he had declared nuclear war, so has he or not? Its a straight question, has he declared nuclear war, as per your earlier post, or not?
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Semantics, check my addition, this will be the last I say on this matter with you
 
Tombstone said:
Well you said that he had declared nuclear war, so do you say he has or he hasnt. You're covertly, overtly line is just fence sitting now. You stated he had declared nuclear war, so has he or not? Its a straight question, has he declared nuclear war, as per your earlier post, or not?
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He has threatened it.

But I'm not sure it is something one declares rather than just does.
 
Rroff said:
I mean what has actually happened - and where these strikes actually occurred - there is a lot of talk and noise but beyond the fact there have been a few explosions, mostly quite distant ones, there doesn't seem to be much actual confirmation of the details.
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Rroff there has been plenty of confirmation, please open your eyes here, there is footage of Mariupol being shelled, there was the CNN journalist hearing jets fly overhead, I just liked to it, there is confirmation from world leaders... Why do you think all the planes have disappeared too?

Statement from the US president:


More footage, this is from Kharkiv:

 
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