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Saw this on a Lebanese news site and thought it was interesting as unlike most eastern/western articles they actually ask the Crimeans what they think lol.

A referendum in Crimea on joining Russia announced for this month was welcomed by many in the peninsula Wednesday but looks set to hamper Western hopes of keeping Ukraine together.

While some Crimea residents would see rejoining Russia as a return to the region's rightful status, experts say the vote on March 16 could draw out the military stand-off and make it very hard to broker a diplomatic solution.

With pro-Russian forces in de-facto control of Crimea, life in the capital Simferopol has been relatively undisturbed, despite Russian flags appearing above some government buildings and transmissions from two local Ukrainian TV stations being switched for a Russian channel.

But discontent lingers under the surface and some yearn for the perceived certainties of the Soviet era.

"I lived under the USSR and at that time, we wanted for nothing. Now there are no more jobs, no more wages. We have nothing any more," said one woman, Natasha.

Another local, Yuri, wanted to shake off what he saw as excessive Ukrainian influence in Crimea.

"Since 1991, there has been a kind of Ukrainization -- little by little, we have been forced to learn Ukrainian. But I don't want the Ukrainian language," he said.

Crimea was part of Russia from the late 18th century until Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev gifted it to Ukraine in 1954.

It still has a majority of ethnic Russians and many people use the Russian language instead of Ukrainian.
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http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/121545-crimea-referendum-raises-hopes-tensions
 
As I said before, Ukraine will end up losing Crimea over this. I mean is the world really prepared to go to war over it? Because I just don't see Russia backing down.

It's not ideal, no, and could set a dangerous precedent. But what's the option - get a good kicking from Putin?
 
Tute said:
As I said before, Ukraine will end up losing Crimea over this. I mean is the world really prepared to go to war over it? Because I just don't see Russia backing down.

It's not ideal, no, and could set a dangerous precedent. But what's the option - get a good kicking from Putin?
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Let Russia annex any state it feels like?
 
ThestigGT999 said:
Questions on Ukraine the West chooses not to answer


1. Why did the opposition oust Yanukovich after he conceded to their demands?

4. Why did Kiev attack the Constitutional Court?
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1. Because Yanukovich conceded to run elections "sometime in 2014" (with them being due in spring of 2015 in any case). This was widely interpreted as stalling for time, something he did all along with the maidan.

4. Because Constitutional Court changed the constitution under Yanukovich to make it impossible for parliament to impeach him, after their ruling couple of years back Yanukovich could only leave presidency before elections IF he wanted to.
 
As Russia has supported Crimea in having a referendum to break away from the country it belongs to. Will they now support areas that want to break away from Russia such as Chechnya.
 
dpbadger said:
As Russia has supported Crimea in having a referendum to break away from the country it belongs to. Will they now support areas that want to break away from Russia such as Chechnya.
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We already supported Chechen independence in 90`s....

However at the moment Chechnya and Chechens love Putin a lot, it is the only region that votes something like 99% for Putin.

About annexing, does this remind anyone of recent Falkland Island debate?? You know, we said we wont give it back because people there want to be part of UK... Isnt Russia doing same thing but just a bit differently??
 
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How about just the states with a high percentage of ethnic Russians, who actually want Russia to annexe them.

Let's not get all melodramatic, here.
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The simple solution is if they identify with Russia so much...why don't they move there?
 
Dis86 said:
The simple solution is if they identify with Russia so much...why don't they move there?
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I believe you might argue the same for the Falkland Islanders if you were from Argentina lol or maybe Irish or catholic if you wanted to be rid of the Brits?
 
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ubersonic said:
Saw this on a Lebanese news site and thought it was interesting as unlike most eastern/western articles they actually ask the Crimeans what they think lol.



http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/121545-crimea-referendum-raises-hopes-tensions
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So what? If you ask peopl in northern ireland if they wish to leave the UK and join the republic, you could ask in specific areas and get a 100% sucess rate, ask in others and it'll be zero.
Split a place down far enough and you'll get a whole manner of changes.

North versus south England, Wales versus London, Scottish nationalists wanting independance. South sudan leaving the north.
 
Dis86 said:
Except the Falklands are British Overseas Territory and not part of another country?
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That supposed to be open for debate as far as Argentina is concerned. Not saying I support both parties either way. Ditto for the above post.
 
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